watercooling advice

Jobe

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ok guys.
I'm going to go water cooling with the stuff in my sig.
Not really sure what to get tho.
The Kit stuff looks more appealing because this will be the
first time for me :eek:
This one looks ok to me and has good reviews.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-028-SW
Only going to do my c2d for now tho is says it can be upgraded later,
presumably with more tube and a chipset block.
Well ?

Regards

Jobe
 
Depends what you want tbh...

That kit would offer little clocking advantage over High end air cooling, like a Tuniq Tower for example...

Personally I would say that you would be better off maybe looking for a bargain used kit, Thermochill PA rads are unbeatable...

New a good water setup will cost at least £180ish, mine was around £250
 
The man speaketh the truth!

Much more rewarding buying and putting together your own kit :D

If you can afford the extra and you really want the most out of your CPU without spending silly amounts of money then I would go custom kit over one already done for oyu
 
well seeing as i really don't know too much about this stuff
I've done a quick search and found this lot.
What do you think?
will it fit in my case or does some of it have to go external?

I've been getting around 41 deg idle and 53 under load which isn't too bad but i want it to be a little lower plus water cooling looks better.
The massive Ninja i have in there is ugly looking.
Also would this be able to handle a chipset block as an addition later on.



Gerard said:
Heres what i finally went with:

2 x YATE LOON 120mm - D12SL-12
Masterkleer 7/16" ID (5/8" OD) PVC Tubing
1 x 12mm Hoseclips Pack of 10
1 x Laing DDC 18w Pump (rev 3.2)
- Aftermarket Top: Alphacool Acrylic Top
- Barb Size for Selected TopA: 1/2"
1 x D-Tek FuZion Accelerator Nozzle Kit
1 x Feser One - F1 - Cooling Fluid - UV GREEN 1ltr
1 x Thermochill PA120.2 Barb Size: 1/2"
1 x D-TEK FuZion CPU Block Barb Size: 1/2"



Should be here tomorrow i think :)
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not sure why he is getting an after market top or even what is it and am even more confused why he is specifying barb sizes. ( does he like fishing ?)
 
The aftermarket top replaces the stock top on the pump, improving looks and performance :)

As for barbs, I would say there are 3 main sizes. A barb is just this:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-006-EK&groupid=701&catid=193&subcat=1049

The threaded end screws into the part (i.e. pump/radiator/waterblock) and then the tubing is pushed over the other end.

There are 3 main sizes: 1/2", 3/8", and 10/8mm compression fittings. The first and second are similar - see the link - and require hoseclips to hold the hose in place. However, the 3rd one looks like this:

*don't link to competitors!*

The bit on the left unscrews, leaving an end like the one with the 1/2" barb, and the tubing is pushed over the barb. The bit which you unscrewed then slides down the hose and screws back on, creating a much tighter seal than with 1/2" or 3/8"mm tubing. Technically, 10/8mm compression fittings should never leak :)

Moving onto the watercooling kit itself, to get better temperatures than a decent air cooler you'll need at least a 120.2 radiator (radiator which can hold 2 x 120mm fans per side). There are some reasonably good starting kits out there - for example, the XSPC X20 Delta kit, which costs around £70. This only has a 120.1 radiator, but as it uses generic 10/8mm compression fittings you could easily buy a 120.2 radiator and use both of them in your loop. The kit is also much more flexible than the Swiftech you linked to, as you can replace any component with a better one rather than having to replace two at a time.

HTH :)
 
considering it's only a £7 difference in price it might be worth considering getting a Thermochill PA120.3 now, which will be better if you should decide to add a GPU block to the loop later. :)
 
not sure if i want to do any extreme modding to my case tho.
the rad would have to go under the top of my case with a big hole cut.
but thinking about it it may be interesting to do the job but not too confident about it.
is it a case then that kits need to have a double 120 rad to dissipate heat well ?
 
A single 120.1 radiator can struggle with high heat loads. I have a good pump and a good block but a Black Ice Extreme (old but still a classic) with an 80cfm Evercool fan can only keep my (overclocked and over-volted) E6600 in the mid 50s. Really good air might be able to equal that. The kit you linked to does come in a newer version with en externally mounted 120.2 rad.
 
if i'm reading all this right a basic water setup would be no better than i've got now, in temps?
also what about the zalman reserators?
although expensive the xt looks good. does anyone know if it performs well.
 
Hi Jobe,

I looked at the Zalman Reserator XT but someone on here slated it. It's review was pretty good too but I suppose if you're going to spend that much you might as well go custom.

RoEy
 
'Basic' Watercooling kits have there place. It's cheap, sometimes quiet and easy to setup for the first timer due to provided instructions. If however, you are wanting performance then you will need to do a little research and build up you own custom kit. Custom kits needn't be extremely expensive as the good thing about them is you can upgrade individual parts whenever you want and the resale value of 2nd hand parts is pretty good so if you buy quality parts in the first instance you wont lose too much money come upgrade time. For a small CPU only loop heres what I'd recommend :

DDC Pro 10w pump (with alphacool top)
Thermochill PA 120.2
D-tek Fusion with backplate
6 feet mastekleer 7/16 tubing
Swiftech Mcres
2 x 120mm D12SL yate loons

The above kit should not cost much more than £150 and will out perform any pre configured kit on the market.
 
w3bbo said:
DDC Pro 10w pump (with alphacool top)
Thermochill PA 120.2
D-tek Fusion with backplate
6 feet mastekleer 7/16 tubing
Swiftech Mcres
2 x 120mm D12SL yate loons

The above kit should not cost much more than £150 and will out perform any pre configured kit on the market.
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don't think all these are available from here, not that it matters.
the pump isnt and not sure what you mean about the backplate on the cpu block.
the mcres are god knows what and i'm guessing the yate loons are fans.
sorry for sounding thick guys but we're not all in the know.

regards

Jobe

edit : now know the mcres is the res (ervoir) doh
 
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Jobe said:
don't think all these are available from here, not that it matters.
the pump isnt and not sure what you mean about the backplate on the cpu block.
the mcres are god knows what and i'm guessing the yate loons are fans.
sorry for sounding thick guys but we're not all in the know.

regards

Jobe

edit : now know the mcres is the res (ervoir) doh
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IMO a t piece and fill port are better for a small loop and if you use 15mm copper plumming bits as i have (in sig) it costs about 20p

a backplate will be needed to stop your motherboard bending under the strain of the cpu block and springs
 
does the backplate come as standard with the cpu block ?
can't see them anywhere.

Jobe
 
Jobe said:
does the backplate come as standard with the cpu block ?
can't see them anywhere.

Jobe
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No. Any decent water-cooling specialist sells them though. OcUK only sell the big-ticket items. I prefer to get my stuff from a specialist so that if I need a new fitting kit or whatever, they are there for me. OcUK would insist I buy a whole new unit unfortunately. And their actual support is us on the forums basically - hardly what you would call in-depth.
 
stinka said:
reserators suck end of

custom with thermochill is the only way
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Reserators have their place. If you want a silent solution for a non-overclocked system then they are excellent. A PA120.3 is generally noisier than what it replaced as it adds three 120mm fans to any system.
 
WJA96 said:
Reserators have their place. If you want a silent solution for a non-overclocked system then they are excellent. A PA120.3 is generally noisier than what it replaced as it adds three 120mm fans to any system.
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unless they can run at reduced voltage compared to the original system.
 
w3bbo said:
'Basic' Watercooling kits have there place. It's cheap, sometimes quiet and easy to setup for the first timer due to provided instructions. If however, you are wanting performance then you will need to do a little research and build up you own custom kit. Custom kits needn't be extremely expensive as the good thing about them is you can upgrade individual parts whenever you want and the resale value of 2nd hand parts is pretty good so if you buy quality parts in the first instance you wont lose too much money come upgrade time. For a small CPU only loop heres what I'd recommend :

DDC Pro 10w pump (with alphacool top)
Thermochill PA 120.2
D-tek Fusion with backplate
6 feet mastekleer 7/16 tubing
Swiftech Mcres
2 x 120mm D12SL yate loons

The above kit should not cost much more than £150 and will out perform any pre configured kit on the market.
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w3bbo , exactly what i am planning on using to cool my Q6600 , if i can find somewhere with a Dtech in stock in the country .

Question for you though sir , what size barbs will fitt 7/16 tuning and whats the most secure way of fixing it to the barbs ?

If i cant find a Dtech whats the next best CPU block ?

Cheers .
 
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