Watercooling

rctneil

rctneil

rctneil

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Hello,
I ahve been building PC's for a bit now and would love to try watercooling out but have not really got a clue what to go for. I have been looking around and found these on the followng site:

EK- Pro Wave Water Cooling Kit

and so on.



Can anyone tell me what the difference is between all the kits shown on there and how good each one would be?

My system specs are as follows:

Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.40Ghz
Asus P5W DH Deluxe
2 x VData 1Gb PC800
Asus ATI Radeon AX700 Pro 256Mb
Seagate 400Gb Sata2 HDD
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
530W Hiper Modular PSU
Super Flower Blue Case
Asus DRW-1814BLT Lightscribe DVD-RW
NEC DVD RW Drive
Floppy Drive
Yusmart 198YP 19" Monitor
24 in 1 Card Reader
300Gb Maxtor One Touch 3
Logitech MX 1000 Mouse


Also, A quick question. If I bought some better RAM, Ie: Crucial or some other type but stilled got 2Gb, would they have any difference over the VData RAM I have now?

Thanks

Neil
 
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ok, ok, ok, I took the link out after the first reply was made!

Go easy on me, Ididn;t know about the linking to competitors sites.
 
Ok, Thanks for the warning guys.

Right, I ahve had a quick look around but get confused as I don;t know whether one bit will fit with another or anything. Could one of you maybe put a kit together of some components you reccommend that will fit together so i can see, one that will cool my system effectively.
 
Just been looking at XSPC and I like the look of this:

XSPC X2O Pro WaterCooling Kit

Anyone have any thoughts on that?


Also, anyone have any advice on the RAM issue i posted about?

Thanks

Neil
 
I don't really know the exact ram i have but they are vData ram - 2 1gb sticks. I just want to know if I would see a performance increase if i change them for crucial or better 2 1gb sticks?
 
Right,
I have a quick question. My CPU is running at stock speeds and at idle i get about 30-40 degree C temps. Other people are saying that they are getting about 25-28 degree C temps with it being overclocked to 3.0 or 3.2?

How? Whats wrong with my setup?

I have been looking at a new case and CPU cooler. Any thoughts on these:

Antec P182
Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme

I have also never overclocked a system before and wouldn;t know where to start. I would love to get it to 3.0 but don;t want my temps very high. f you could explain how I get it to 3.0 then i would be very appreciative.

Thanks

Neil
 
coretemp, it says

tjunction: 85 degrees
core1 and core2: 46-50 degrees.

Are those ok or is there anything i can do to reduce them before trying to overclock.

Thanks

neil
 
Just reseated my HSF and reapplied the thermal compound. I only had some Thermaltake Thermal grease #1 so I had to use that.

Temps:

Everest: 30-32 degrees C

Core Temp: 40-42 degrees C


I wnat to get my temps down and also increase speed of the system.

I may purchase the Lian Li PC V1000 alu case which should help.

A friend also suggested buying a sata to CF converter and a 4GB CF card and using that as my OS drive for Vista. What are your thoughts on this?

Thanks

Neil
 
Ok, So I'll stop thinking about CF instead of Hard Drives.

I don't play an almighty amount of games so an upated graphics card really is not needed for me. The only games I play to be honest are Simple puzzle games and RCT1 and 2 for nostalgia reasons! :D

I still may get the case and I am looing at the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme to replace my current Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro along with some AS5 to go along with it.

If I wanted to find out details about my ram, do i go into the bios or can I use a program? If so then what am I looking for? and what program can I use?
 
here is a screen from CPU-Z

memorydetails.jpg


I hope that tells you what you need to know.

Thanks

Neil
 
I have read a guide about overclocking and it helped a bit but it is still very much new and I don;t really know what I am doing. How do I find out my current FSB?

Thanks

Neil
 
So, do you think I should give that a go?

So, I set the memory divider to 2

and then up the FSB by 5 and check stability and keep going until fails?


Also, If I replaced my AC Freezer 7 with a thermalright ultra 120 extreme and a scythe 120mm fan, would that help?

I have also just seen a post talking about the thermalright fitting into the lian li pc v1000+ case. does anyone else know whether it fits or not?

UPDATE: Just thought that I cannot use the Lian Li PC v1000 asmy mobo has a heatpipe on it to cool the chipset and can't be mounted upsidedown. Any other nice cases like that you could recommend?



Tooks said:
Ok, so it's running at standard PC-6400 speed (333mhz x 2 = DDR2 667Mhz) . Your RAM is set to 4:5 at the moment, so my guess is your running your FSB at 266? Is that right?

If so, you should have some FSB headroom without overclocking the RAM. You should be able to run to 333fsb, and then ensuring you've got the RAM divider set to 2, it should net you a 3 Ghz clock speed, with the RAM running at twice the FSB speed, which is 667Mhz.

DON'T just whack the FSB up to 333 though, bring the divider down to 2 and then start moving the FSB up by 5 or so, and see if it's stable. You may need to gently increase the voltage at some point if it won't boot at the higher FSB's, but don't go there unless you know what you're doing.

Again, sorry to go on about it, but it's explained far better in the overclocking sticky thread up top. You HAVE read it by now haven't you?! ;)

Sorry if this sounds like I'm teaching you to suck eggs! :)
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Some questions:

What is a ram divider?

Why do I have to set it to 2?

Whats the 4:5 you spoke about and how do you know?



I read a tutorial about Overclcoking C2D's at ***** Forums, I think it was and it said to set the Ram to 1:1 to be synchronous with the FSB. It's this memory part I don't understand.

Thanks

Neil
 
So, Do I want to set the Memory Divider to 1:1 or leave it as it is?

Also

How do I know what the max frequency of the memory is?
 
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Thanks for that.

So, I'll go find out what the speed of my ram is and look around the bios a bit more.

UPDATE: I have found out the details of my RAM:

It's DDR2 800 PC2 6400

Does this mean it runs at 800mhz


I ahve also had a quick look around the bios and found where you change the FSB which is great but can't find where to change the memory divider. I did find "DRAM Frequency" which could be the same and this gave me the following options:

DDR2-400mhz
DDR2-533mhz
DDR2-667mhz
DDR2-711mhz
DDR2-800mhz
DDR2-889mhz
DDR2-1067mhz

If this is the same then what dod I set it to for a divider of 2?

Also if my divider is 4:5 now and you say set it to 2 then what is 2 in the ratio terms? 1:2 or 2:1? I guess it's 1:2 but not sure but I first need to know where to change it in the bios!

Thanks

Neil


Thanks

Neil
 
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Excellent.

So if I wanted to reach 3.0Ghz I would need a 333 FSB right?

And I would choose the DRAM Frequency of 667?

If this is correct then I may give it a go tommorow but at a lower fsb just to be sure first time.

So could I start with setting my FSB at 280 for 2.5ghx and then the dram frequency would be 560?

I hope this is all correct.

Just to ask, If I did go ahead and set the fsb to 333 and the dram to 666 do you think I would have any major problems?

Thanks for all your help.

Neil.
 
Cheers for all your help.

I'll have a go a bit later this afternoon. I know nothing should happen to my data when I do it but to be sure I'll do a full backup and put an old XP drive in so I can test using that!

I'll post back here with any other questions and my results!

Thanks

Neil
 
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