Well built wireless mouse with at least 6 buttons.

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I've already created a similar thread in the gaming section, but didn't get a response so will ask similar here as it isn't just for gaming.

I've had a Logitech M705 for several years from 2016. I really liked the scroll wheel on this one that had freewheel/ratchet as well as side scroll wheel clicks. It also had a button under the thumb as well as the more standard back and forward. It eventually gave up and I bought a replacement, but the quality was horrible and the scroll wheel was so hard to use. Had far too much play in it making quick scrolls go several clicks to far and individual clicks like on google maps zooming in / out always incredibly difficult. I'd even bought 2 M720s and both had faults the the side buttons being mushy and not registering. I even got a replacement M705 due to the scroll wheel problem and the new one was pretty much the same. So I'm rather put off by logitech. They were good 10+ years ago, but they really seem to be terrible regarding quality control these days.



The shape of the M705 is perfect. The rough dimensions of a mouse that I would want are between 100mm - 120mm in length, 60mm - 70mm in width and around 40mm in height. I mostly use the palm grip but sometimes use the claw grip when gaming.

I've looked at some gaming mouse options, but there is one thing I want to totally avoid. RGB lighting.

On wireless mice, I don't understand how anyone can't think it is just wasteful. Your hand covers them and it just drains the batteries quicker. The rest of the time, you won't be there much or your PC will be off. But why are there so few options without these? I'm baffled by this. I also don't really like the idea of a mouse complex enough to need a program to get more out of it. I just want it to work out of the box.

I can do without the freewheel scroll and the sideways clicks if I must, but I require the back and forward buttons. I also don't see the need for DPI and liked that logitech almost always have it fixed at 1000.

I would prefer a well made office mouse really that will be able to be used for the bit of gaming that I do. It looks like many gaming mice don't have prediction / angle snapping which I actually find very important for many other things I do. And I honestly don't notice the negative side of this for the type of gaming I do.

I certainly am willing to pay a lot for a decent mouse. In the mean time, I've got a budget technet mouse which is actually the perfect shape, but I paid £6 for it. I bought 2, and they both differ. One I also got a replacement for. Some have squeaky scroll wheels. Others have noisy clicks. If I bought 5+ I probably could get one that is ideal. Some may be lucky enough to buy a perfect one. Quality control in my opinion is the biggest disadvantage with electronics these days and logitech are one of those brands. All 3 of my M705s felt like a different mouse.

My budget can be up to around £60, but given that it is obvious that my cheap technet mouse "could" be fine if they made it consistently, I don't think I should be spending this much. But if it guarantees quality, then it is worth it. I've however read that even razor has major issues in the quality control department. Saw a youtube video mentioning that the user had bought 1 that went faulty in 6 months and the replacement felt different. And his friends that he'd tried out (another 2) both felt different again! And they were all virtually in the same batch.
 
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I know you said you dont want logitech and it is currently slightly above your £60, but the MX Master 2S or the MX Master 3 are available on the Rainforest for £75. I use a 2S I bought a few years ago at work and it still works perfectly. The 2S has normal left/right, central scroll wheel with left and right and down click on that, you can lock the wheel so it will either freewheel or move in steps, has a thumb scroll wheel, 2 side buttons (use mine for forward/backwards) and a customisable button under the thumb rest that you can do at least 4 actions with, including program opening etc.
 
I know you said you dont want logitech and it is currently slightly above your £60, but the MX Master 2S or the MX Master 3 are available on the Rainforest for £75. I use a 2S I bought a few years ago at work and it still works perfectly. The 2S has normal left/right, central scroll wheel with left and right and down click on that, you can lock the wheel so it will either freewheel or move in steps, has a thumb scroll wheel, 2 side buttons (use mine for forward/backwards) and a customisable button under the thumb rest that you can do at least 4 actions with, including program opening etc.

I remember feeling both of these at a retailer and for my tiny hands, they are a little too big really. And I think all Logitech mouse wheels work in a similar way. the scroll wheel is heavy (weight wise) purposely to give it momentum when it is in freewheel. But i find this is a nightmare when having it in the ratchet mode. As IMO, when you flick the wheel then, it should stop instantly, but it still has some play in it which makes it much harder than normal mice to do incredibly precise single click scroll up or down. Given I've had 5 mice with this style of scroll wheel that all look the same, yet feel and sound different, I don't trust logitech's constituency here and have only had one that felt reasonable to use. I think a side wheel would be a bit too much to get used to.

I think I'm better off to stay cheap and just lower my expectations and get them from somewhere with a decent returns policy.
 
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