Welsh Independance

[Chives]

Whilst I'm not a supporter of the idea , parties such as plaid cymru are growing rapidly here (their main aim is independance). I think the idea is quite frankly crazy , Wales is struggling as it is as the moment and that is with westministers financial support and so without it I think an Independant state would collapse within a year. Wales has no major export and the coal industry died a long time ago.

Discuss

 

[Chives]

Scotland are more likely to get it before the Welsh - however, I doubt it would happen at all.

The scots have a very real and good chance of surviving without westminister , I completely agree.

 

[Chives]

Waste of time, just more government to waste money on. Better for everyone if we stick together. However if it were to happen the English would come off the best.

Without a doubt , england is by the far the richer country in the uk out of every one.

 

[Chives]

We should just remove the borders and claim it for England, I doubt they'll be much resistance

MW

Mutiny amongst the Welch regiments of the british army .

 

[Chives]

We'll just ship them off to Afghanistan

...And then they'll welcome their new English overlords

MW

I agree that is it a crazy idea. Plaid are off their heads, it just wouldn't work at all.

Indeed. We would probably have to go begging to the IMF/UN in the first year just to keep afloat.

 

[Chives]

Let's see, does the English revenue pot include Scottish oil and gas?

Yep..

 

[Chives]

Hot steamy balls.

I love sweet and sour balls.

"“In future we will be looking to discuss Shetland's constitutional future with the Scottish Government with a view to securing the best possible deal.”

The opinions of one man, and neither does it look like he resents being involved in Scotland as a country either.

He is talking about home rule or devolved power for the islands from Scotland, not independence.

You can also find columnist to say pretty much whatever you want to say these days, you have free thinking people with opinions everywhere. Doesn't make it a consensus.

How many people do you know from Shetland gaiden?

Spent much time there? I have many friends over the water.

They see themselves as multicultural, but intrinsically Scottish at the same time.

Although I am not going to debate the finer points of the Scottish identy with a man who claimed in all seriousness that Scotland wasn't a country in the first place.

Please don't derail this thread. It is about Wales not scotland.

 

[Chives]

Well he is the Convener of the Shetland Council and he is talking about semi automony from the Scottish parliament as it stands currently, not in an independent from Westminster Form.




BTW, my maternal Grandparents live in Shetland, near Gremista. And they see themselves as Shetlanders, not Scottish and would be insulted to be called Scottish.

Can we end this now please, this is about wales not scotland. save it for another thread.

 

[Chives]

How much is support for plaid cymru growing?

18.5% in the european parliament elections an increase compared to the last one.
Worth noting that their vote fell slightly to 11.3% in the 2010 elections.
However they did well in the 2007 assembly elections , they got 22.3% of the vote.

 

[Chives]

Bioshock and gaidin , please save this debate for another thread.. this topic is supposed to be about wales not scotland.

 

[Chives]

*yawn* I give up with you two . Looks likes the don's are going to have to close because it has gone so far off track.

 

[Chives]

I think for Wales it would be a catastrophic mistake,

why do you think this?

 

[Chives]

england people pay for there free prescriptions that we dont get

No your salaries are on average £5000 higher instead

 

[Chives]

Purely economic reasons. I'm not trying to deny you your countrys history .

tbh I really don't care about my country or its history. I'm moving to england asap anyway .

 

[Chives]

Jesus you two are like children on a playground , anyway do carry on it is amusing .

 

[Chives]

Why would we want to be independent when we can carry on siphoning money from English taxpayers?

Lol true . If only the plaid cymru brigade saw it that way.