Wendell vs Fong.. who is better??

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a lot of people are saying that Wendell is the first major cyber athelete..
However in my opinion Dennis "Thresh" Fong was the first major player..

If both were to face off in say Q3 who do you think would win??

I'm saying Q3 as Wendell was ranked no 1 at it and iirrc correctly Fong also won a few major tournaments before Wendell arrived on the scene.
 
Thresh was never a real big shot in Q3 except for maybe the very early days, he'd get annihiliated by Fat.

However you would be correct in stating that Thresh was a "major player" long before Fat hit the big time. He enjoyed a lot of success in QW and Q2.

Arguably the first true Cyber Athelete champion on a world scale, however, would be LakermaN. He won the True Gamers Invitational in Spring'99, which featured a range of top Quakeworld players from around the globe such as Kane, Reload, Sujoy, Timber, Blitzer, Sectopod, Cable, Nikodemos and Colombo. It's a shame Thresh never showed, but I think by that time he was more focussed on Q2 and was probably worried about getting massacred by the likes of Laker and Kane in QW, which would have tarnished his reputation.

More info for anyone interested over at http://www.challenge-au.com/events/tgi/index.html and http://www.methosq.com/newsapr99.htm . "pro gaming" is commonplace these days, but the importance of this event should not be underestimated, it was a Big Deal(TM) at the time.
 
Interesting question.

Fat is amazing in that he can turn his hand to pretty much any FPS and be one of the best...if not the best.

Thresh was legendary at Doom/Quake, and was pretty much invincible at Q2 1v1. Didn't he only lose 1 pro 1v1 game?

Fat only really concentrated on Q3A when it first came out - he then went off to AvP for a while I believe. If he had stuck at it would he have been as good as Zero4 or Cooller? Who knows. Would Thresh have been able to show as much versatility as Fat if he had remained in the spotlight? Who knows.

As far as who was "first"....Thresh was definitely the first household name.
 
Thresh was legendary at Doom/Quake, and was pretty much invincible at Q2 1v1. Didn't he only lose 1 pro 1v1 game?

Aye I think he only lost once in a tournanment.. qualifying stages iirc.

I remember seein a demo at the time when this swedish guy won a world tournament at Q2 and request a match against Thresh.. who accepted the challenge.

Map of Choice.. Q2DM1

Score?

Thresh : 86
Other guy : -3

In a 10 mintute match.

The guy was a god..
 
Sujoy was a big deal because he was ranked world #1 in the early days of Quakeworld, was a feared dueller, and played for one of the top UK clans of the time, Demonic Core. I've still got a copy of PC Zone from early 1998 where there's a big article on how he spent his time at Cambridge uni :)

I think he handled things well from a publicity point of view, when Quake3 came out he quit his job as a banker in the US to become a 'progamer' and appeared on TV shows like big breakfast etc. When it became apparent he wasn't going to dominate in Quake3, he used his reputation to aid business ventures like www.esreality.com (formerly xsreality). This is uncannily similar to what Thresh did; he basically used his name to setup "Thresh's Firing Squad" as it was known at the time, which is now a very popular gaming/hardware site. Xfire is another well known gaming brand which he had a hand in.

Another factor I think which we do need to bear in mind, however, is that both Thresh and Sujoy had very, very good connections for the time. Back then most players were on dialup connections, meanwhile those guys were slpbs pinging sub-20 which gave them a huge advantage online. Whereas Fatality, on the other hand, has been doing the business under much fairer LAN conditions. There's no doubt Thresh was a great player (especially in Q2), but I think he was also quite canny in terms of choosing his opponents, servers etc, basically trying to maintain his 'invincible' rep.
 
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