What 24" ips monitor help

Meridiusuk

Meridiusuk

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Hi all i was wanting a 24" monitor and see dell and hp are selling ips monitors for about the £450 mark.

I was woundering which is the best one or is there better at the same price range.

are these monitors the best to get

thanks
 
NEC has some 24" IPSes at high prices, also input lag is rather high.
And Philips has one harder to find model and also Fujitsu has one 24" IPS.
 
Anyone know about the Phillips 240PW9ES

it is a 24" H-ips and uses the same LG screen as the HP with the same spec, minus a few minor connections. Sells for 15% less than the HP and in Switzerland is much easier to find than the HP.

(In contrast the Dell is about 30% more expensive than the HP and 55% more expensive than the Phillips so seems massively over priced.


But it is hard to find reviews of the Phillips? I guess the screen performance should be the same as the HP?
 
I always avoid anything made by Philips (apart from their lightbulbs). They're incapable of making reliable products.
 
Unless you're getting an imac you'll be getting one of LG's (the folks that make the H-IPS panels) low grade cast offs with pink/green tint and dead/stuck pixels. This is why the IPS panels have dropped in price suddenly. Dell have made a statement that al of their U2410's are within manufacturing spec so if you get a bad one there's no going back.

Basically, wait for a more reliable panel supplier to surface, pay more for an NEC or Eizo, or just get a trusty old S-PVA 2408wfp or 2407wfp off ebay for less than 200 squid. **** it, get 2!
 
Baddass said:
reviews of both the Dell U2410 and HP LP2475 available here which should help: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/
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DO NOT trust those reviews, monitors on review are usually handpicked by the manufacturers so they are as far as they can be "problem free". See what happens when a serious review site goes out and buys a of the shelf U2410:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10394895-1.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=Crave

IN 20 days I have tested W2448h, LP2475w and U2410...and I can say that or I am particularly unlucky or DELL's and HP really need to look into their QC!!

One thing I have to say about HP is that their customer service is spot on, they been very quick in giving me full refund for both the W2448h and LP2475w.
 
Yep, I agree with Alfie and Panzaman here.. If you're even going to bother with these current 24"+ LG IPS panels then either pay for a screen with a better grade of panel and some uniformity controls (The NEC WUXI's or the even more expensive Eizo's) or prepare to enter a panel lottery where there's a significant chance you will get a screen which is green on one side and pink on the other.

If you're going in that direction HP appear to have better customer support than Dell in this regard, but I'd recommend that you simply save yourself the trouble and don't. Though not without issues PVA panels seem a safer bet than buying some of these cheaper IPS panels, where Dell and HP are paying for a fairly low grade of IPS panel from LG. I also suspect, given the relatively few colour gradation reports from Apple users, that Apple are one of the companies paying LG a bit more for a higher grade of IPS panel..

The Philips/HP/Dell all use the same panel, and thus will be subject to this issue until a day when they add uniformity controls which can adjust different areas of the screen independently.
 
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panzaman said:
DO NOT trust those reviews, monitors on review are usually handpicked by the manufacturers so they are as far as they can be "problem free". See what happens when a serious review site goes out and buys a of the shelf U2410:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10394895-1.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=Crave

IN 20 days I have tested W2448h, LP2475w and U2410...and I can say that or I am particularly unlucky or DELL's and HP really need to look into their QC!!

One thing I have to say about HP is that their customer service is spot on, they been very quick in giving me full refund for both the W2448h and LP2475w.
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or check your facts first. Both the Dell 2408WFP and Dell U2410 tested there were not supplied from Dell and just bought "off the shelf" and supplied for review, so as good a sample as any for review :) the tinting issue is only affecting a very small number of people in the grand scheme of things and certainly not every unit. I'll be looking at another U2410 in fact next week so will check that for tinting issues as well
 
Baddass said:
or check your facts first. Both the Dell 2408WFP and Dell U2410 tested there were not supplied from Dell and just bought "off the shelf" and supplied for review, so as good a sample as any for review :) the tinting issue is only affecting a very small number of people in the grand scheme of things and certainly not every unit. I'll be looking at another U2410 in fact next week so will check that for tinting issues as well
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Ok, so wait.. Did you pay your own money to buy a U2410 sample? ..Or was it supplied by a certain competitor with "BuyIt" in their title, and who certain Overclockers customers will know better by their other name - Taran Microsystems (as they supply many third party retailers, including Overclockers, with U2410's as well as auctioning themselves) - and who then went on to advertise on your site? If that's the case then there's no conflict of interest there then, huh? ;)

Btw I didn't see any major problem with your review (although missing the "dither" issue in Adobe/sRGB mode is more than "surprising") but if you're seriously saying that the company supplying you doesn't have a financial interest in "cherry-picking" a good example then I don't know anyone with any common sense who'd agree with you. This is one reason why reviews, other than for the purpose of revealing certain aspects or features, aren't of huge value in the internet age (although yours are generally of more value than most reviews out there) since they deal with a statistical example of 1 and a potentially cherry-picked example at that.

There are many of us who've been through several monitors from Dell now, and the tint issue seems VERY common as far as we're concerned. But then, I'm only going by the SIX U2410's I've seen, including 3 at the same time (where one was visibily less bright than the others, never mind the whole tint gradation issue).
 
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there is the potential for cherry picking it with the U2410, and yes, you're right it came from there. not with the 2408WFP i tested though as that was actually bought by a friend and then subsequently borrowed for a while :) I'll be seeing a totally independent U2410 next week though so will certainly report back if i find tinting issues. i'm not afraid to report negatively about these screens and i've never avoided the truth for the sake of keeping any manufacturer happy, and you'll see several articles on the site highlighting the issues from the 2407WFP, 2407WFP-HC and then 2408WFP.

Certainly not denying some people are experiencing the issue with tinting, and sure it is there as ive seen examples of it. but it's not a massive issue effecting everyone
 
I have £800 in a bank account waiting for Dell to sort their issues out so i can buy a pair of 24"'s.

That £800 is burning away to buy a camera lens, i wish Dell would hurry up and sort it out!

I was even looking at a £700 22" Eizo earlier, but i need the workspace over the quality sadly :(
 
Really suprised to see people arguing with Baddass, he has to be one of the most respected mods on this forum IMO, his knowledge with Monitors is second to none.

Over the years when I have changed monitors I have always asked him for advice on whats what in the market and he has given me very sound advice, I don't even know this guy yet he would be the 1 person I would seek advice from before making a purchase.
 
I wouldn't touch another HP LP2475w again, I had 3 of them and ALL of them were faulty, 2 with faulty firmware and one with a pink/green tint, by the time I had sent my 3rd one back I was sick to the back teeth with HP. There was a period of a couple of months between the 2nd and 3rd screen, as I thought a bit of time might clear up any problems with it..but did it heck!

I ended up buying a 2nd NEC 24WMGX3 monitor to replace the HP LP2475w, best monitor I have owned!

As regards the reviews of TFTCentral, it is always one of too places I regularly go to look at reviews of monitors because of the quality of them...
 
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