What amp for these speakers?

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So my Dad gave me his old Technics SB-C350 speakers today, but I do not have an amp to power them.

What I am after doing is using my STX in my PC for headphones, but connect the PC (probably via the STX) to an amp and use the speakers. This is my first step into amps and speakers that are not self-amped so I am a little lost.

I have been looking around at options but I do not know what I can actually use. Would the optical output on my STX be best to use or the LR phonos? Also the amp itself, what should I be looking for? I know these are far from the best speakers in the world but they were free and a really good start for me.

So yea, which amp for the speakers and how should I connect them to my PC? I am not looking to spead a lot, and at this stage I am only after ideas. I still need to talk to the wife into letting me buy one, shes still cooling off from my HD650 purchase! :P
 
My setup is this....

Speakers into the AV receiver
Optical cable from on-board sound to the back of the AV receiver

I am just upgrading from using the on-board sound to an STX, then I am buying a new AV receiver.
 
As my setup is purely for the audio from my PC, mainly music, I do not need an AV receiver correct? I could mirror your setup but just have an amp instead?
 
Any half-reasonable second-hand AV receiver would be perfect for your needs. Unless the PC has a high-end audio card (£100+) then Optical is going to be your best option. It will transport either stereo PCM or a Bitstream siognal which can be decoded to stereo or surround if you decide to add the extra speakers.

Pretty much any AV receiver from the last 10 years would fit the bill. You could pick up something for under £50. Here's a Denon 2803, Pioneer VSX-321 , Onkyo 605 (going rate should be around £60-80 but it does also have HDMI inputs), a Denon 3803.

All of these and any others you'll come across will have had reams written about them and there'll be plenty of history to show up any issues.
 
Unless the PC has a high-end audio card (£100+) then Optical is going to be your best option.

I have the ASUS Essence STX, which is fair decent so would you still go optical over the LR phonos?

Out of interest, why AV receivers rather than amps? I will never go 5.1 and its only for PC, never any additional devices.
 
Apologies, but STX didn't mean much to me in your OP because I'm more of a Hi-Fi and AV audio person than a PC audio one. Now you've given it the full name I have a better understanding of your equipment.

So, with the Asus Essence STX you could go either phono out or optical.

The reason for suggesting an AV amp was simply based on a set of presumptions built-up from dealing with lots of similar enquiries. You've been given some speakers at no cost; there's no budget set out in your OP; your background is PC rather than Hi-Fi/AV audio so your price expectations are probably based on PC speaker prices rather than AV/Hi-Fi; and it's likely that you want to get up and running at minimal cost (initially, at least) and yet cover as many bases as possible, which then may include adding or connecting other items to the system such as a TV or possibly a Sky or Freeview recorder box; and perhaps you're looking for something with the convenience of remote control? An AV Receiver ticks more of those boxes as a 'one stop' solution than does a Hi-Fi amp. Finally, although better than many PC speakers, the Technics SBC350's aren't really a Hi-Fi class speaker, so they're a performance bottleneck in terms of how much difference in audio quality you'll hear between different kinds of amps. Was any of that wildly off the mark?

I remember selling similar Technics speakers with their stack systems back in the mid-80's. Quite often the buyer would ask if there was any way to improve a system at the point of purchase. The answer was a speaker upgrade to a pair of Mission 70mkII Hi-Fi speakers @ £99. We sold very few Technics speakers and lots of Missions as a result. :D

In purist terms a Hi-Fi amp would be better, and for around the sort of money I've mentioned for a 2000+ vintage AV receiver you could pick up an 80's proper British Hi-Fi amp (Arcam, Creek, NAD, Rotel) as long as you're not too fussy about condition. If looking at something more recent then a 90's or early 2000's Cambridge Audio, Denon or possibly Marantz amp might just sneak in under the radar. Very few if any of these will have remote control for when you're sitting back just listening to music.

You might be tempted by the cheap T-amps advertised on Ebay. They're new of course, but of only limited real power output. The Technics speakers aren't that efficient, so like a fair bit of power behind them to get things moving. That would highlight the T-amp's Achilles heel.

As for AV receivers, there's been a massive amount of churn in the market with the development and adoption of new features such HDMI, 7.1, network streaming, app control etc. Then there's the Titanic price erosion as new models come out at ever lower prices. This pushes down secondhand prices to silly levels. There are some very capable older (pre-HDMI) receivers going for silly cheap money. Big Yamahas, Pioneers and Denons are particularly good value if all you need is basic stereo and AV features. These would have been anything from £800-£1500 new and pretty much top of the tree in terms of performance at the time they came out. For pure audio quality they'll even whup the butts of the modern £1000 AV receivers. This is because of the sonic arms race going on in the mid 2000's. HDMI hadn't yet hit and Blu-ray wouldn't launch officially until 2006, so at the time the manufacturers were heavily focussed on the sound quality battle. That probably marks the pinnacle of the power amp-side of design and build quality.

If you'd like to provide some more detail about your needs and budget then it might be possible to fine tune some recommendations.
 
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Excellent reply!

To give some further information, honestly I have no interest in anything other then audio as this is in my office and I have an impressive TV/sound setup in my living room already. An AV receiver may still be the answer though due to price as you have pointed out. Its a shame my Dads old denon pre amp and amp bust, as I would have taken them off his hands. I did not know that the SBC350s were not that capiable, my only real memory of them working was with an old Technics stack but that was back when I wasnt even a teenager, so over 15 years ago. I am sure they will sound better than my current Creative T40s though, or am I mistaken? I do want a remote for when I am not sat at my desk and maybe chilling else where in my office, so maybe some of the older amps would not fit the bill?

I think what I am really getting at is that I want to enter the HiFi market without breaking the bank, so the SBC350s would be a start with a basic amp. I would like to over the years get to know audio better and improve, but there is no rush.

Oh and last, bugdet wise I have no idea at the moment. I do not see the need to spend hunderds at this point, so maybe something between the one and two hunderd mark would suit? If I could get something second hand I am not adverse to that either. This will not be a purchase that I will be making soon though as the wife has asked me not to buy anything for a while. So 2-3 months I think I will make my move. I am seeking advice at the moment really.

Its a shame I cant power these speakers up either, just to see what they sound like. :(
 
You've got time then to get familiar with makes and models, do some reading and find both new and used amps that tick your boxes.

If it's Hi-Fi amps, then in new choices you'll be closer to the £200 part of your price range. That's because under £150 (which is still shallow end for a Hi-Fi amp) the manufacturers are concentrating on covering the basic performance criteria. Over £150 there's a little money to start adding bells and whistles; a remote being one. Have a look at the Pioneer A20 and Cambridge Audio Topaz AM10 (both £149) and Marantz PM5005 (£170). You also have choices from Yamaha (AS201), Onkyo (A9030) and Denon PMA720 - but I think the Denon might be a little too bright sounding with your Technics speakers.

I think you'll find that all of these are just basic stereo amps with straightforward stereo phono inputs. i.e. they don't have digital inputs on optical or coax.
 
The analogue outputs on the STX are VERY good and will provide an ideal output to an amp.

Have you thought about where you will be placing these speakers (they will really need to go on stands).
 
Stands would be great and although I have a large office, my PC desk is in a position where stands may be awkward. I was planning on placing them on my desk to be honest.
 
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