What are the other quads after the current intel ones?.. True quad = a lot cooler

[Perfect_Chaos]

anybody know?

i am waiting to see how Barcelona fairs first in games etc compared to C2D, but i hear when true quad cores come they will be a heck of a lot cooler.. thank god.

 

[Perfect_Chaos]

Well current quad cores are only 100W TDP... thats still a lot less than any of the old 939 processors and a lot less than any of the top end P4 range.

The quad cores run at 1.25V stock IIRC while Conroes are 1.3-1.35V and thats 10W per core straight away.


Start overclocking and heat output goes through the roof. My 3.4ghz Conroe is > 100W so a quad core is gonna be > 200W and thats a lot of heat to get through a 4cm^2 area...


Yea next gen will be cooler, but don't expect anything hugely beneficial, once you start ramping up the clocks and voltage (even more so at smaller die sizes) the output will still pass 150W atleast, you wont see quad cores doing 100W output for a few years yet I'd imagine. Overclocked that is, Intel/AMD might bring out some ultra-low voltage versions which usually don't clock very well...

and the only best way to cool them while clocking is with water, without spending a fortune that is.

i think its possible to get 3.8Ghz no probs with water? isnt it something like 4.2 on phase?, in that case a lot cheaper to go with water i would imagine.. if going water -> phase its gonna cost u like 200-300 quid more for a 300-400mhz boost in clockspeed over water

 

[Perfect_Chaos]

Not likely to be honest, most seem to be stable at 3.6GHz but with high temperatures (70C+) when fully loaded.

As Concorde says, they're pumping out over 200W of heat at those speeds and voltages (1.45-1.5ish load volts).

Jokester

are they even stable at those temps?

think ill wait and see if any cooler chips come along, if its worth it or not i have no idea

 

[Perfect_Chaos]

how much cooler are the quads gonna get?

they only just manage stock with air cooling.. bit stupid imo

 

[Perfect_Chaos]

That is with top end watercooling. The difference between 1 and 2 120.3 is pretty much nothing (I didn't notice any difference between a 120.3 +120.2) as the extra cooling potential of the extra rad is offset by the increased flow restriction.

Jokester

so the only way to get around it is a bigger rad than 120.3? and thermochill dont do pa 120.4 or higher do they?