What can PS3 do...

[fdxd]

Heavenly Sword has the best graphics and animation ive seen in a game (including pc games) for a long time. Maybe theres something about playing it on a massive screen that does it for me

I agree apart from Crysis nothing comes close. The artistic modeling and texturing is very well done and is proof that good art and technical usage go hand in hand. Andy Serkis is great by the way.

 

[drunkenmaster]

You're doing it wrong then.

lol, couldn't agree more, you can quite easily make a £600 machine match or surpass the performance of a ps3, and i mean a total computer that will do a shedload more things than the ps3.

it doesn't matter what code, or how inefficient windows is, although you said it without an facts or numbers to support it. but have you checked task manager, this inefficient code, all the bloat that windows has, would you care to load up any game you want and describe how much cpu time all this other stuff is using up in the background and maybe give us a description of how terribly its affecting performance of the game? even if there was any remote fact that a similar spec would be thrashed by a pc, pc's are already 2 generations ahead of the ps3 when it comes to gpu's(well 1 imho, but 2 officially), hd's that can stream data massively faster than a bluray can, the whole problem with consoles is that before release, or shortly after people buying parts for a gaming pc are getting much more powerful hardware a lot cheaper. a year later its a joke, and 3 years later its beyond laughable how bad console games look in relation to pc games.

 

[Darkwave]

As hilarious as this fanboyism is, I'm afraid I'm going to have to one-star this thread.

 

[kidkhaos]

la year later its a joke, and 3 years later its beyond laughable how bad console games look in relation to pc games.

so games are all about looks? Tbh i doubt a big game for the ps3 is going to look so bad its unplayable.

Also you said

whole problem with consoles is that before release, or shortly after people buying parts for a gaming pc are getting much more powerful hardware a lot cheaper. a year later its a joke, and 3 years later its beyond laughable how bad console games look in relation to pc games.

the £600 pc you said that matches or surpasses the ps3, how well will it play the latest pc's games in 3-5 years? I know the ps3 will still play ps3 games brilliantly, and because developers have gotten used to the coding games would look a lot better on it.

You also say its cheaper? well lets say a new console costs 500 and a new one comes out every 5 years, so you pay £2,000 for 20 years worth of console hardware.........i doubt you can say the same for pc's.




Now i'm not a fan boy, i think pc's are kick a**, but to say they are way better then consoles imho think is a load of toss.

 

[Darkwave]

the £600 pc you said that matches or surpasses the ps3, how well will it play the latest pc's games in 3-5 years?

Probably quite well, as you'd just sell the £75 graphics card in it for £50 and buy a new one for £100.

You also say its cheaper? well lets say a new console costs 500 and a new one comes out every 5 years, so you pay £2,000 for 20 years worth of console hardware.........i doubt you can say the same for pc's.

It's simple, I do it all the time. You just take your £500-1000 PC and spend about £100-200 per year on upgrades, you can make back a lot of that cost by selling on the old components too.

Not only do you have a platform that's constantly and cheaply getting more powerful, but it also has guaranteed backwards compatibility and the other main advantages of PCs like using it as a proper media centre (first person to try telling me the 360 media features are anything but crap immediately fails), communications centre, and doing other things on it like getting work done and browsing the web.

I just spent £275 on an Xbox 360 Elite, but to say the PC is anything other than far superior is simply a lie.

Edit: I swore I wouldn't get dragged into this thread, so I might not reply to anyone who attacks my post.

 

[kidkhaos]

good point except i knew most of that

PC's are better in terms of what you can do on it, i was focusing my points mainly on the gaming aspects. Which i think consoles and pc's are about the same (both have good and bad points), neither is way better then the other.

 

[KNiVES]

I agree apart from Crysis nothing comes close. The artistic modeling and texturing is very well done and is proof that good art and technical usage go hand in hand. Andy Serkis is great by the way.

It's still the PS3 trying to be something it's not. The majority of the game is jittery with very few sections running smoothly. Great graphics and animations and all, but it's pointless if you can't make it run as good as it looks. Bunch of 6/10 reviews goes a long way in showing that pretty graphics don't really mean good game. If you are going to make an argument for PS3, why not do the console service and actually recommend the top games for it, like Warhawk and er.... er.... uhm.... yeah.

Lovely blu-ray movies though. The quality of titles like 300 and Planet Earth and Apocalypto on the PS3 are unrivalled anywhere else. And if you think about it, the PS3 just as a standalone blu-ray player is worth the price - compare it to the market for blu-ray and HD-DVD players, there is only one blu-ray player that is cheaper, and its quality is questionable, compared to the PS3's reputation as one of the finer quality players (unlike the PS2's DVD capability at launch).

 

[atpbx]

It's still the PS3 trying to be something it's not. The majority of the game is jittery with very few sections running smoothly. Great graphics and animations and all, but it's pointless if you can't make it run as good as it looks. Bunch of 6/10 reviews goes a long way in showing that pretty graphics don't really mean good game. If you are going to make an argument for PS3, why not do the console service and actually recommend the top games for it, like Warhawk and er.... er.... uhm.... yeah.

Warhawk?
Dirt?
Heavenly Sword?
Resistance?
Sigma?
Fifa08?
Rainbow 6 vegas?
Oblivion?
GRAW2?
The Darkness?
Ridge racer 7?
Marvell ultimate alliance?
NHL 08?
NBK 2k8?

Thats 14 8+ rated games on gamespot since march when the machine was released. which is what? 6 or so months ago.

In the last 6 months there have been 17 8 plus rated xbox 360 games.
So over similar time periods the machines are having similar software output.
The PS3 cant have games that were released over 6 odd months ago, because it didnt exist......................
So its got decent games, its got more than decent games.
If you look at the garbage that was released in the first 6 months of the 360's life its a wonder it managed to keep going at all.

 

[FrankJH]

Warhawk?
Dirt?
Heavenly Sword?
Resistance?
Sigma?
Fifa08?
Rainbow 6 vegas?
Oblivion?
GRAW2?
The Darkness?
Ridge racer 7?
Marvell ultimate alliance?
NHL 08?
NBK 2k8?

.

How many of those are just on the PS3 though - certainly reduces that list by 1/2 if not more (at a guess) - right Nok?

To be fair people always go on about not enough games - as is so often stated, it depends if you already have a 360 /PC or not, if not the PS3 becomes more and more worth it already without imminent arrival of GT5 etc b4 Xmas

Im heavily pro PS3 and dont care admitting it, I can see its merits over the X360, and I can see MS's challange is a lot stronger this round than with the original Xbox (and the wii is beating both hands down)

It also doesnt mean that the PS3 wont get better and better, Sony are developing more uses - extending its abilities month by month, whereas the 360 is only a games machine /basic media centre (no pvr for example) - im not saying its no good at what its chosen to do but the PS3 has a lot more potential

PS3 could also end up being mulsh of a lot of things and not being particularly good at any of them (however I think this is unlikely)

 

[atpbx]

How many of those are just on the PS3 though - certainly reduces that list by 1/2 if not more (at a guess) - right Nok?

It doesnt matter how many are "just" on the PS3 they are on the PS3.

The "exclusives" on the 360 that anybody would actually want to own are few and far between as well, with some of them as said available either on the PC or the PS3.
I can think of three, Forza, PGR and Halo.

The fact of the matter is, the PS3's software library is increasing at the same rates as the 360.

If you own a PS3 all you would be missing is 1 or two good games from the previous year and it is only one or two decent games.

 

[Fr0dders]

this gone from a thread debating the merits of the effeciency of the PS3 hardware and its capabilities

to being a PC / PS3 / xbox 360 fanboy ware debating which is best. Original topic anybody ?

 

[Inoshishi]

this gone from a thread debating the merits of the effeciency of the PS3 hardware and its capabilities

to being a PC / PS3 / xbox 360 fanboy ware debating which is best. Original topic anybody ?

Welcome to the Console Games & Hardware section

 

[KNiVES]

It doesnt matter how many are "just" on the PS3 they are on the PS3.

The "exclusives" on the 360 that anybody would actually want to own are few and far between as well, with some of them as said available either on the PC or the PS3.
I can think of three, Forza, PGR and Halo.

The fact of the matter is, the PS3's software library is increasing at the same rates as the 360.

If you own a PS3 all you would be missing is 1 or two good games from the previous year and it is only one or two decent games.

Fact of the matter? Not only have you put down a redundant list where nearly half are inferior ports from the 360, but you've taken a completely one-sided view. Sony would have loved to have the 360's launch lineup and immediately thereafter. 'Oh it doesnt matter if it's on another console' er yes it does, especially if you're trying to convince somebody to buy a PS3 over a 360. Why should someone pay more for a console that has games existing on another format at a cheaper price and in nearly all cases better, smoother and more graphically potent versions of games?

I can't even count the top PS3 games on one hand. Warhawk and that's it. The rest are questionable; Motorstorm, Resistance, Heavenly Sword. This is a year after the PS3's global release. You look at the Xbox 360's lineup at launch and within a month of it, you have GRAW, Call of Duty 2, Oblivion and Condemned. As I said; I am sure Sony would have loved that lineup, instead of a tired, overpriced and frankly, boring launch that rivalled the Sega Saturn in terms of diminished fanfare. You compare a year on for both consoles, and in the 360's lifecycle we see Gears of War, Crackdown and Forza Motorsport 2. Compare that to the PS3's Lair and Heavenly Sword - both massively hyped, both massive clangers with no substance or depth.

And if you really want to get to the realistic business side of things - ie, that Sony and Microsoft are directly competing with each other right here and right now; well, the PS3 has nothing on the 360, and nobody is going to wait for Sony to play 'catch up'. As it stands, the PS3 is being stomped on by current games like Halo 3, PGR4, Forza 2, Bioshock and a hell of a lot more. We won't be waiting for MGS4 to make comparisions, as evident by the tons of 360/PS3 threads - they're all suggesting go for 360 over PS3. Simple as, and the majority of the board can't be wrong.

Buy it as a Blu-ray player, that's where it stands out above the rest. On the game side of things, to quote the Halo naysayers; 'it's nothing special'.

 

[Kreeeee]

It's a pretty kick ass DVD upscaler too.

 

[MumboJumbo]

Not to add to where this could be going (Pc VS console debate), but sure a PC can do many things a console cant (well not so much a PS3), but i got a pretty good Gaming PC, plays all of the PC games i want to play. But one thing a PC cant do (well without being illegal) is to play games such as God of War, Final Fantasy 13, Metal gear solid 4, Littlebigplanet etc etc. So what if you got a 2k gaming PC ? you still cant play console exclusives on it and these are the games i want to play as well as the PC games, and it just happens that with the PS3 (and Sony consoles before it), and to its part Nintendo, that most of its games stay on the console and don't migrate to the PC, unlike the 360 and Xbox as Microsoft are trying to support both its PC and Xbox software.

You have a good point which ive not thought about before. I beleive that hands down the xbox 360 is the better console purely because of the games out on it. I dont care about blueray i just want good games to play and the PS3 is totaly lacking at the moment. I have no doubt it will have good games in the future but currently it doesn't.

I have a gaming pc and a xbox 360 and i prefer to play games on pc. But a lot of xbox 360 games will probably come out on PC. Therefore perhaps i should have got a PS3. Mmmm lol.

 

[Inoshishi]

Fact of the matter? Not only have you put down a redundant list where nearly half are inferior ports from the 360, but you've taken a completely one-sided view. Sony would have loved to have the 360's launch lineup and immediately thereafter. 'Oh it doesnt matter if it's on another console' er yes it does, especially if you're trying to convince somebody to buy a PS3 over a 360. Why should someone pay more for a console that has games existing on another format at a cheaper price and in nearly all cases better, smoother and more graphically potent versions of games?

So that they can actually complete the game before the console dies and has to be returned? (You get what you pay for, the HW quality of the PS3 far outshines that of the 360) - Also with early ports (The Darkness to name one) you are correct they were smoother on the 360, but this is no longer the case imo, some games look and play better on the PS3, having played RB6Vegas for extensive ammounts of time on both, I know which one I would rather play it on, and its not the 360.

I can't even count the top PS3 games on one hand. Warhawk and that's it. The rest are questionable; Motorstorm, Resistance, Heavenly Sword. This is a year after the PS3's global release. You look at the Xbox 360's lineup at launch and within a month of it, you have GRAW, Call of Duty 2, Oblivion and Condemned. As I said; I am sure Sony would have loved that lineup, instead of a tired, overpriced and frankly, boring launch that rivalled the Sega Saturn in terms of diminished fanfare. You compare a year on for both consoles, and in the 360's lifecycle we see Gears of War, Crackdown and Forza Motorsport 2. Compare that to the PS3's Lair and Heavenly Sword - both massively hyped, both massive clangers with no substance or depth.

The PS3 is what? 7 Months old in the UK? And as far as i'm concerned for a 7 month old console the lineup is fantastic:

Armored Core 4
Blazing Angels
Call of Duty 3
Colin McRae - DIRT
Conan
Def Jam Icon
Enchanted Arms
Fantastic Four - Rise of the Silver Surfer
FEAR - First Encounter Assault and Reconnaissance
FIFA 08
Fight Night Round 3
Formula One - Championship Edition
Full Auto 2 - Battlelines
Genji - Days Of The Blade
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
Heavenly Sword
Marvel Ultimate Alliance
Mobile Suit Gundam - Target In Sight
Motorstorm
Nascar 2008 - Chase for the Cup
NBA 2K7
NBA Street Home Court
Need for Speed Carbon
NHL 08
NHL 2K7
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Pirates of the Caribbean 3
Rainbow Six Vegas
Ratatouille
Resistance - Fall Of Man
Ridge Racer 7
SEGA Rally
Sonic the Hedgehog
Spiderman - The Movie 3
Stuntman - Ignition
Surfs Up
The Darkness
The Elder Scrolls - Oblivion
The Godfather - The Dons Edition
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2007
Tom Clancys Ghost Recon 3 - Advanced Warfighter 2
Tom Clancys Splinter Cell Double Agent
Tony Hawks Project 8
Transformers - The Game
Untold Legends - Dark Kingdom

And with more and more games coming out each week the "PS3 has no games" is no longer a valid argument in my eyes.

And if you really want to get to the realistic business side of things - ie, that Sony and Microsoft are directly competing with each other right here and right now; well, the PS3 has nothing on the 360, and nobody is going to wait for Sony to play 'catch up'. As it stands, the PS3 is being stomped on by current games like Halo 3, PGR4, Forza 2, Bioshock and a hell of a lot more. We won't be waiting for MGS4 to make comparisions, as evident by the tons of 360/PS3 threads - they're all suggesting go for 360 over PS3. Simple as, and the majority of the board can't be wrong.

Buy it as a Blu-ray player, that's where it stands out above the rest. On the game side of things, to quote the Halo naysayers; 'it's nothing special'.

This might be correct in your eyes, but for me personally I had a 360 and sold it, I was then console-less for a good six months, I have since bought a PS3 and have not looked back, I'm just about to install Linux on it, I watch a Blu-Ray or upscaled DVD pretty much every night, The kids love watching photo slideshows on it, I stream my music from my PC downstairs to my PS3 upstairs, and i'm having a great time playing through all the great games, to be quite honest, there are that many games I have to rent them because i'd end up spending 1000's of pounds if I was to buy them all.

Of course this is all just my opinion, but for me the PS3 turds all over the 360, but everyone is different and has different views...

 

[Margaret]

Most the 360 games that are exclusive take about a year or 2 to be released on PC anyway, if they ever end up being released on the PC.

 

[wannabedamned]

Its fairly useless trying to say anything good about the PS3 in these forums. I agree with a lot of what's been said.

I wish people would stop saying PS3 lacks games though now, as it doesn't. Whether people have a 360 or a PS3 the cross platform games are there, and exclusives exist on both platforms, What you can say, Is that the 360 has more exclusives on the market at this time! And you'd look less of a blatant fan boy.

The cross platform games, yes some do look better on the 360, The darkness is pitiful on the PS3 unfortunately. But then again, Dirt a relatively new game on the market looks better and performs better on the PS3. Not saying that forgives the many tripe ports already on the PS3, But it does show that both consoles are capable of outshining EACH OTHER. It's just looks to me that developers were in a rush to have the same game on multiple platforms, and didn't try and put the same effort into both consoles final product.

I feel the 360 has reached a critical point now, Halo 3 people are already saying that they feel that it's multiplayer will stay in the number 1 live spot for the life of the 360! And if that's the case, then I feel sorry for the 360. As it's just 1 more multiplayer online shooter. Hardly innovative. Hardly groundbreaking.

With PS3 you have Littlebigplanet, Something different, something that obviously is yet to hit the market, and could be a HUGE flop. But something I'd love to succeed.

Thats something I like about PS3 over 360, The culture surrounding the console, Japan! They are always the first to try something, have you seen their arcades!? They are awesome. And PS3 AND Nintendo, are always going to have more Japanese Developers. And my money is on them finding the fun in a console.

As FPS's are getting kinda tiresome for me. Maybe I'm alone in that.

 

[Margaret]

I feel the 360 has reached a critical point now, Halo 3 people are already saying that they feel that it's multiplayer will stay in the number 1 live spot for the life of the 360! And if that's the case, then I feel sorry for the 360. As it's just 1 more multiplayer online shooter. Hardly innovative. Hardly groundbreaking.

I don't know why you'd feel sorry for the 360, it's getting other great multiplayer games aside Halo 3. Even though Halo 3 has excellent multiplayer and apparently it is groundbreaking according to the majority.

Gears Of War 2, Fable 2, Ninja Gaiden 2 and Alan Wake are still set to appear, the 360 is far from its critical point.

 

[Warbie]

My PS3 is used primarily as a Blu-ray player, which is it is excellent for. Games wise there has been very little to tear me away from the Wii and 360, but there are some great looking titles on the way (MGS4, FF13, Little Big Planet and the next Team Ico offering have me excited. There's also Time Crysis 4 - a must for any arcade gun fan ).

Heavenly Sword is well worth a rent and Motorstorm and RFOM make for pretty decent fillers.