What class are you?

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Working/middle/upper ?

Just watched the John Prescott program on class, it's class:rolleyes:!

Anyway, the view is that the class system is being dissolved, or at least between the working and middle classes...

Personally i was classed as middle class when at school, which can be quite interesting when about 90% of the people in area probably classed themselves as working class...although it really wasn't something i was interested in at all.
 
Working/middle/upper ?

Just watched the John Prescott program on class, it's class:rolleyes:!

Anyway, the view is that the class system is being dissolved, or at least between the working and middle classes...

Personally i was classed as middle class when at school, which can be quite interesting when about 90% of the people in area probably classed themselves as working class...although it really wasn't something i was interested in at all.

And why do you class yourself as middle class?
 
It depends. I bet many people here are upper class but would call themselves middle.

I am middle class.

I would say anyone who attends a public school was upper class. But there we go.
 
I bet many people here are upper class but would call themselves middle.


In order to upper class you need to have inherited a title, and ideally land as well. "Mr" is not a title for those purposes. I'd be surprised if there any upper class people on the forums.


The interesting one is lower middle class: most people who fall into that category usually describe themselves as working class in an interesting bit of reverse snobbery.


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Middle class. As for the working and middle merging... Maybe, but there is still some kind of underclass. Like, the non-working class or something.
 
Middle class.

But I always rib my wife that we're upper working class, it really winds her up. :p :D
 
Social mobility in the UK is the worst of the developed world. Classes in the UK are very alive.

http://www.economist.com/world/britain/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12480828

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Here are some studies

http://cep.lse.ac.uk/about/news/IntergenerationalMobility.pdf (Apr 2005)

but

http://www.lse.ac.uk/collections/pr...AndEvents/archives/2008/LowIncomeFamilies.htm (Oct 2008)

suggests a turning point
 
If you ask people to chose a class, they'll invariably get the middle classes wrong.

From Marx:

Marxism defines social classes not according to the wealth or prestige of their members, but according to their relationship with the means of production.

Working class - A multitude of individuals who sell their labor power for wages and do not own the means of production, and he defined them as being responsible for creating the wealth of a society. For example, the members of this class physically build bridges, craft furniture, fix cars, grow food, and nurse children, but do not themselves own the land, factories or means of production.

Middle class - A noble owns land; a capitalist owns capital; a worker has the ability to work and must seek employment in order to make a living. Marxists vigorously debate the exact composition of the middle class under capitalism. Some describe a "co-ordinating class" which implements capitalism on behalf of the capitalists, composed of the petit bourgeoisie, professionals and managers.

Upper-middle - In England this class of people is less easily defined, and personal wealth is not a necessary criterion. Frequently its members are members of professions (traditionally academia, law and medicine), although merchants too were able to penetrate its ranks. However, being a member of a profession does not automatically elevate a person to this class, and it is quite common for an upper middle class person not to work in a traditional profession. Instead, accent, language, education (usually at a good public school), family background and understatement, in both behavior and taste, are defining characteristics of the upper middles. Although not of the landowning class, its members may aspire to the characteristics of, or be described as, gentlemen.


Upper class - entry to the upper class is still considered difficult, if not impossible, to attain unless one is born into it.


But such class boundaries are meanginless these days.... some working class can have better qualities of life than middle class. Anyone that has completed tertiary education can be assigned middle class... etc...

It's all bull. But from these guidlines, I'm upper-middle as I'm enshrined in acadamia, have a 'posh' accent (this only means I speak correct English) etc... Like I said, it's all bull.
 
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