What CPU would you recommend

Piesanfries · 29 May 2014 at 23:27

If I was to build a gaming rig that may also be used for video editing but do not want to over clock

Would the i5 4690 be good enough or would you need to go up to an i7 ?

dfour · 30 May 2014 at 00:04

I would have thought a i7 would be the best idea with 4 cores and 8 threads to help power through the encoding.

Space Monkey · 30 May 2014 at 01:39

i7 if you do a fair amount of encoding, i5 if mainly gaming and on a tighter budget?

Devrij · 30 May 2014 at 08:09

i7 if you can afford it, but an overclocked i5 would certainly offer good performance. Any reason you don't plan on overclocking?

Piesanfries · 30 May 2014 at 08:22

I don't know how it's took a lot of convincing for me to build it I just don't want to mess with over clocking. The budget is tight as I'm trying to get a 290 in the build

My budget is £900 and i need an OS ;(

ExRayTed · 30 May 2014 at 09:02

Stick with the i5 to be honest.

What are you upgrading from?

Devrij · 30 May 2014 at 09:15

If budget is tight go with the i5 and overclock it. It's very easy to get a good overclock, and it only really gets fiddly when you start pushing the limits. I could overclock an i5 in about 15 mins, and most of that time would just be checking how low I could get the volts at 4.5GHz. You'll get an extra 25-30% performance for the price of a £20 cpu cooler rather than spending an extra £100 on an i7. We can help! Hell, you can even leave it a month before you decide to try an overclock!

DJ_Hughesy · 30 May 2014 at 09:58

if i can manage to overclock anyone can

it really isnt that complicated, plenty of videos on youtube about it/guides online

i5 all the way

Idleman · 30 May 2014 at 10:01

Do you have an existing PC, if so can you post the system specs?
That way we can see what you need and what can be reused.
Will you also be requiring an OS and a new case?
The more info we have the more we can help.

Piesanfries · 30 May 2014 at 10:49

im not im building my first ever gaming pc. I did a lot of posting in march with the same thing but had issues with my car and had to shelf the idea until now. will a £20 cooler really be enough to keep a over clocked cpu at a safe temp ? that's something im concerned about I see a lot of people spending £60+ on cooling !

I literally have nothing to put in or towards it £900 is my limit for just the desktop iv got my mrs buying me my monitor and key board and mouse

Piesanfries · 30 May 2014 at 10:58

Idleman said:
Do you have an existing PC, if so can you post the system specs?
That way we can see what you need and what can be reused.
Will you also be requiring an OS and a new case?
The more info we have the more we can help.

Yes I really feel like im burning £70 of my budget getting windows it really bugs me ha

Idleman · 30 May 2014 at 11:32

YOUR BASKET
1 x VTX3D Radeon R9 290 V2 X-Edition 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (VXR9 290 4GBD5-DHX) £319.99
1 x Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £173.99
1 x Gigabyte Z97-HD3 Intel Z97 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £87.95
1 x Toshiba SSD HDTS212EZSTA 9.5mm 128GB Solid State Hard Drive - Retail £65.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) HDD £59.99
1 x SuperFlower Golden Green HX 650W "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £59.99
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan ORANGE 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLAD38G2400HC11CDC01) £55.99
1 x Corsair Carbide 200R Compact ATX Case - Black (CC-9011023-WW) £44.99
1 x Raijintek Themis Direct Contact CPU Cooler £19.99
Total : £903.86 (includes shipping : £12.50).

You wont get a 290 and an OS in the budget. You could drop down to a 280X or use use Windows 8.1 Evaluation for 90 days and save up.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-gb/evalcenter/hh699156.aspx

With OS.

YOUR BASKET
1 x Gigabyte Radeon R9 280X Rev2.0 WindForce 3X OC 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £249.95
1 x Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £173.99
1 x Gigabyte Z97-HD3 Intel Z97 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £87.95
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £74.99
1 x Toshiba SSD HDTS212EZSTA 9.5mm 128GB Solid State Hard Drive - Retail £65.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) HDD £59.99
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan ORANGE 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLAD38G2400HC11CDC01) £55.99
1 x Corsair Carbide 200R Compact ATX Case - Black (CC-9011023-WW) £44.99
1 x NZXT Hale Power 90+ 550W '80 Plus Gold' Power Supply £43.99
1 x Raijintek Themis Direct Contact CPU Cooler £19.99
Total : £899.23 (includes shipping : £17.85).

Piesanfries · 30 May 2014 at 11:45

could I not remove the SSD. I know how good they are for booting up the pc but id really rather have the 290 now and SD later and drop the 2TB down to 1TB would that not help ?

Idleman · 30 May 2014 at 11:55

Piesanfries said:
could I not remove the SSD. I know how good they are for booting up the pc but id really rather have the 290 now and SD later and drop the 2TB down to 1TB would that not help ?

You can do that. I only included the 2TB hdd because a 1TB fills up very quickly, especially with the OS and other data.

YOUR BASKET
1 x VTX3D Radeon R9 290 V2 X-Edition 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (VXR9 290 4GBD5-DHX) £319.99
1 x Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £173.99
1 x Gigabyte Z97-HD3 Intel Z97 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £87.95
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £74.99
1 x SuperFlower Golden Green HX 650W "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £59.99
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan ORANGE 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLAD38G2400HC11CDC01) £55.99
1 x Corsair Carbide 200R Compact ATX Case - Black (CC-9011023-WW) £44.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £43.99
1 x Raijintek Themis Direct Contact CPU Cooler £19.99
Total : £896.87 (includes shipping : £12.50).

Devrij · 30 May 2014 at 15:47

You could replace the 2TB HDD with a 120GB SSD (for core programs that you use every day and the OS) and a 1TB HDD, and then install games and the like on the 1TB HDD. Then add a bigger storage drive later on and just scoot your music/films etc onto that, leaving the 1TB HDD as a dedicated games drive. Gives you a few months at least to save up for a storage drive.

Piesanfries · 30 May 2014 at 16:35

im pretty sure 1tb will be more than enough storage I will only play a few games im not one that plays on 100s of games I may have 10 or so at the most.

I'm thinking of leaving the ssd for a few months down the line the game experience is currently more important to me than how fast my system boots and loads programmes

Idleman · 30 May 2014 at 16:39

Devrij said:
You could replace the 2TB HDD with a 120GB SSD (for core programs that you use every day and the OS) and a 1TB HDD, and then install games and the like on the 1TB HDD. Then add a bigger storage drive later on and just scoot your music/films etc onto that, leaving the 1TB HDD as a dedicated games drive. Gives you a few months at least to save up for a storage drive.

But the OP still needs an OS. If he went for the first spec and used the Windows 8.1 Evaluation, then he gets the 290, 120GB ssd and the 2TB hdd, he's then only £4 over budget. Then when he has the money, buy Win 8.1 and he does'nt even have to do a re-install.

Piesanfries · 30 May 2014 at 16:41

Idleman said:
But the OP still needs an OS. If he went for the first spec and used the Windows 8.1 Evaluation, then he gets the 290, 120GB ssd and the 2TB hdd, he's then only £4 over budget. Then when he has the money, buy Win 8.1 and he does'nt even have to do a re-install.

If I was to do that im not sure how it would work, im pretty sure I wont be able to get on the internet on a computer with out an OS I could be wrong though !

Idleman · 30 May 2014 at 16:58

Piesanfries said:
If I was to do that im not sure how it would work, im pretty sure I wont be able to get on the internet on a computer with out an OS I could be wrong though !

It is a full functioning OS, with internet access. It allows you the opportunity to save up for a licence and saves you having to mess about with cloning or re-installing the OS when you buy an ssd at a later date.

Devrij · 30 May 2014 at 17:14

Idleman said:
But the OP still needs an OS. If he went for the first spec and used the Windows 8.1 Evaluation, then he gets the 290, 120GB ssd and the 2TB hdd, he's then only £4 over budget. Then when he has the money, buy Win 8.1 and he does'nt even have to do a re-install.

Well spoken, the same concept, but easier!

Piesanfries said:
If I was to do that im not sure how it would work, im pretty sure I wont be able to get on the internet on a computer with out an OS I could be wrong though !

As below: think of it as installing a trial of windows, and when you have the money saved up you buy a key and activate it.

Idleman said:
It is a full functioning OS, with internet access. It allows you the opportunity to save up for a licence and saves you having to mess about with cloning or re-installing the OS when you buy an ssd at a later date.