Impressive but again I'd rate Doom 3 on par:
It lacks the physics involved of course, but good lord it was way ahead of its time.
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What do gamers actually think about Ray-Tracing?
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Impressive but again I'd rate Doom 3 on par:
It lacks the physics involved of course, but good lord it was way ahead of its time.
Something I thought about with the recent DF video on Doom the Dark Ages use of ray tracing - Doom 3 you could also preview the lighting in the editor in real time because it doesn't bake lighting albeit the lighting is far short of what ray tracing can do with a lack of things like indirect bounced lighting, etc.
Oh i agree, its really cool...
ID Tech has always pushed lighting and atmospheric effects on some level, it's nothing new really. I think my main issue with RT is that it's often used as a crutch rather than a consideration.
Forgot I still had this - you could do some quite impressive things with the lighting in Doom 3:
But if RT/PT was involved that coloured light would also be being bounced around the scene - not just directly painted.
I'm actually a big fan of the Thief series, love stealth games in general but that's what set me off and it became a life long passion for me. Seemingly I'm far from being alone, there's a strong enough (albeit niche) community who developed a game/level launcher based on the series using Doom 3 due to how well it handled lighting, which was (among sound queues/use) a huge part of the games:
The Dark Mod - Wikipedia
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Funny enough I was just browsing through my old screenshots from a Doom 3 mod I was involved with which was based on the Thief style - "A Terrible Secret" which originally started as a Half-Life 2 mod but then I got onboard to help build it on the Doom 3 engine but then they decided to change focus again to HL2 so I parted ways, looks like the mod never got completed in the end.
EDIT: IIRC The Dark Mod also took quite a bit of wind out of their sails as well.
This was really early stuff but an idea of the art direction:
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Funny enough I was just browsing through my old screenshots from a Doom 3 mod I was involved with which was based on the Thief style - "A Terrible Secret" which originally started as a Half-Life 2 mod but then I got onboard to help build it on the Doom 3 engine but then they decided to change focus again to HL2 so I parted ways, looks like the mod never got completed in the end.
EDIT: IIRC The Dark Mod also took quite a bit of wind out of their sails as well.
This was really early stuff but an idea of the art direction:
Impressive tbh. Shame things didn't go forward, but I'm damned happy The Dark Mod came as far as it did.
Odd to think back really, I remember Source with HL2 and ID4 with D3 releasing around the same time with their own strengths and weaknesses, not counting Bloodlines anyway.
While I think Source had a ton of potential in the general sense, ID4 was by far the better option for a Stealth/Thief-esque game in my mind.
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its using a very expensive rendering algorithm, i read in a interview that they had to do one lighting pass per light source, 5 lights would be 5 passes, 10 would be 10 passes and so on..
i think the method is no longer in use and hasnt survived even in a vestigial form
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Just the art direction, I guess + YouTube compression.
For the inside of that house, the lighting happens automatically within the engine or you have to do something in particular? I see the light from the lamp going through the table, that would be the "classic" sign of rasterization. Can you have the lamp cast it's own shadows (the bulb from it) and not go through the table, can it be interactive, destroyed? How many shadow casting lights were usable back then? And most importantly, can the engine switch between what casts a shadow and what doesn't automatically, based on how many shadows casting lights are in your view?
As far as I'm aware it was never used outside of ID Tech engines, and I'm not 100% sure in which iteration they stopped.
ID Tech had a ton of unrealised potential over the years unfortunately, they were utilising techniques few others did across the board. Remember the texture (Megatexture) streaming tech they used that would load on the fly as needed? It was supposed to bypass GPU memory constraints unless I'm misremembering, outside of tech demos it was first used in game with Rage from back in 2011. Sounds an awful lot like the direct storage techniques used much more recently, doesn't it?
Awful texture pop though.
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