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what do i do, which CPU ?

Mal X

Mal X

Mal X

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hi i'm new to this forum and totally confused...:D

i'm about to build a new high end rig but...

I was going to get the AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 955 Black Edition 3.2GHz and overclock it to 4GHz.... until i read about the new Fusion/Bulldozer 8-16 cores.... now this is due out ( Fusion) in maybe 2010, and the Bulldozer 2011.....

now july 2010, (due to having to save the money), is when i intend to finish building my PC, i.e i'll wait till then before i buy the latest card.

now do i buy the Athlon 955.... now or at Xmas, or should i wait till the next generation come out..Fusion/Bulldozer.

this is really bothering me..... i need advice, is this new CPU worth the wait or is the present Athlon good enough for the next 3 to 4 years.

thanks.
 
DF1986 said:
Just get the Phenom II 955, an AM3 board and some good ram and clock the nuts off it, OR you could wait and wait and wait and wait and wait for the newer more expensive stuff which is mainly only going to be used for servers.
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hi....i like this reply :D
the trouble is i knew exactly what i wanted to buy and then yesterday, i saw this Bulldozer/fusion CPU... i then thought ``oh hell, what do i do, buy now or wait``

i have the athlon 64X2 6400 ...gtx 9800...4gb DDR2....650w...MSI mobo, but it needs upgrading, well it doesn't really, but i just feel like doing so!. .... it's either another Athlon as stated, or the i7 DO Stepping, but i prefer the Athlon as it's cheaper, plus i'm an Athlon fanboy anyway :D

what frames per sec will i get on a 4.0 ghz O.C .....playing FEAR and Fallout 3.....with the 295 GTX ?

i think i'm gonna' like this forum, because i'll need your advice to get to 4.0GHz ;);)

my main concern is that i have a PC that's futureproof and dosn't need a major upgrade for the next 3 to 4 years

thanks Mal
 
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BigBruiserAl said:
How about 550BE o/c to 4.0 then you just sell the chip and buy new a one next year thats 4 core+ when thers maybe some more use for it?
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i havent noticed this one, but i dont think it's DDR3...whatever the case, i'd prefer to go for its bigger brother.
 
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no my motherboard needs replacing..

i'm doing a fresh build from scratch...new case, PSU, everything, so i'm after the best MOBO up to 200 quid...

i dont mind X2 550....as long as it's as powerful as the 955 black and up to 3.8 to 4GHz...because i'm after the most power i can get...

but 3 and quad core processors have a higher framerate/sec, so this is quite important to me, so it looks like i'll go for the 955 black, but i need advice on which is the best MOBO and it must be DDR3

thanks.
 
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AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 940 Black Edition 3.0GHz......but there is this cheaper quad core at about 130 quid...this might go up to 3.8GHz
 
ha ha..........decisions decisions.... i like the Quad Core 940 Black Edition 3.0GHz....because it's between the two :D
 
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i've just checked on Google, the AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 940 Black is AM2+......it cant go on an AM3 mobos mentioned above, and it doesn't support DDR3 either...is this correct?

thanks.
 
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moppy89 said:
Way I see it, if youre onlly gonna complete your build at whatever time, theres no point buying parts until then. You will get better things for cheaper.

Like me, I plan on putting together a PC in August. So I wont buy any parts until the end of August cos thats when I have the time to do it. Why buy parts now and then moan when you see how much prices have dropped come August time?
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yea' and i've got to waste 50 quid replacing my current PSU....that would've got me the Antec 300 case for my next build :mad:

prices are dropping fast ( cpu/ram/mobo) so there's no way that i'm buying anything till Xmas ..... all i'm doing now is researching/homework, i've a lot to learn, cause i've never built a rig before, hence i'm here annoying the regulars :D:D

my guess is this new phenom 965.... will be a standard upgrade on the 955, and will have maybe 3 diff versions all based on this one, but only overclocked more :rolleyes:

3.4
3.6
3.8 at Xmas

by then the standard 965 3.4GHz will be dirt cheap and the one to go for... just OC this one to 4.2.....if poss.... or 3.8.... and this new one might only be a 955 in clever disguise, you know; a few tweeks here and there :D:D

whatever the case, i definitely aint buying an INTEL, i've always had Athlon ever since Win 95 ;)
 
moppy89 said:
Well top of the range performance is still held by Intel, I mean, none of these Phenoms can compare to the i7 as it stands. But you will be paying a lot more for that, so AMD is definitely the one giving you bang for buck atm.
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.. there is still a gap, but it's reducing fast and might not be there in two weeks time......but we're not sure yet. :cool:

but this gap is definitely not worth the extra expense for Intel i7 ...not at 400 to 800 quid. this is where Intel have a huge problem.... ...because they do not have enough speed/ power advantage over an overclocked 955, to warrant this ridiculous price tag.

the i7 3.3 ``extreme edition`` should be about 300 quid, but definitely not 800 quid.

Intel will need to drop their prices and pretty quick too.

and dont forget Athlon have Fusion/ bulldozer comming out within one to two years...Atlon have turned the corner in the last 6 months, and Intel have to be a bit careful from now on.... they're looking too elitist, especially during a worldwide recession!
 
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moppy89 said:
Lol I saw that £800 chip and could not understand how something smaller than my palm and not made of DIAMONDS could cost that much. That is truly crazy pricing.
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yea' it's crazy.... i'm quite excited about my new pc, i dont mind waiting a year.
i'll get the case/ corsair 850/ hard drives/storage first...and then nothing more till next july!.... but i might get the CPU at Xmas...

last of all will be the Card... because the GTX 295, will definitely be outdated by then.... maybe outdated two times over by new DX11 cards... so only a fool would buy card/ mobo now.
 
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