What do we do with the 360?

Hmm, a cheap PC isn't as low power, usually not as quiet, sleek, software not as finished, even a cheap PC isn't as cheap given the fact the PS3 has HDMI out and a Bllu-Ray
 
Hmm, a cheap PC isn't as low power, usually not as quiet, sleek, software not as finished, even a cheap PC isn't as cheap given the fact the PS3 has HDMI out and a Bllu-Ray

The PS3 is not particular low power at 380 Watts, just add a £50 Blu Ray drive to a £200 small form factor PC with a £3 DVI -> HDMI converter. Software is as cheap as you want it with open source choices and 120mm fans are as quiet as the PS3.

The PS3 is probably the better choice for simplicity but the PC option is nowhere near as bad as your making it out to be.
 
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The PS3 is not particular low power at 380 Watts, just add a £50 Blu Ray drive to a £200 small form factor PC with a £3 DVI -> HDMI converter. Software is as cheap as you want it with open source choices and 120mm fans are as quiet as the PS3.

The PS3 is probably the better choice for simplicity but the PC option is nowhere near as bad as your making it out to be.

Can't find anywhere which says it's running at 380Watts - 200Watts is all I can find and that's for the older models

http://www.hardcoreware.net/reviews/review-356-2.htm

iirc the new 80GB model has the 65nm chips in it which use less power still.
 
I just googled "PS3 Watt" and the first 4 links said 380 Watts but that could easily be wrong.

That's it's peak usage, as in, in order for it to drain that much it has to be under 100% load. The idle usage in XMB (and probably quite similar to the streaming usage) is around the 180W mark.
 
Cheers Streeteh, during DVD upscaling doesn't the PS3 run at 100% load?

From another forum:

Parts used:

Shuttle KPC K45
Intel E2200 2.2GHz Pentium Dual-Core Desktop Processor
Cooler Master Hyper TX2 CPU Cooler
2GB RAM (Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C4)
120GB 2.5" Laptop Hard Drive (Western Digital WD1200BEVS-22UST0)
Nexus Real Silent 92mm Fan (Rear Exhaust)
Nexus Real Silent 80mm Fan (PSU Exhaust)
Noctua Ultra Low Noise Adaptor on 92mm fan
CPU Duct created with Plastic from DVD cases
Stretch Magic 1.8mm used for hard drive suspension
Self-stick vinyl tile used for case panel dampening
Acousti-Pack used for noise absorption (leftovers from my P182 install)
Black wire fan grill and black 80mm fan gasket
E-SATA Connector from Gigabyte PCI bracket
Extra northbridge heatsink, mounted on top of existing northbridge heatsink.
Radio Shack Nibbler used to cut all metal panels as needed

Watts Idle: 40
Watts Load: 82

So seems like a SFF PC would still use a lot less power, but this isn't really a point worth pursuing in the grand scheme of things.
 
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Cheers Streeteh, during DVD upscaling doesn't the PS3 run at 100% load?

I doubt it's 100% even up scaling to 1080p, my reasons for this assumption would be:

The Cell takes the brunt of the load for up scaling iirc
The Bluray drive won't be spinning at full pelt like it would when loading a game
While playing demanding games like MGS4/DMC4 the fans in my PS3 sometimes speed up, this has never happened to me while up scaling indicating lower overall usage.

Keep in mind for what would be classed as 100% load on the PSU the bluray drive, HDD, GPU and CPU would all need to be going at pretty much full pelt at the same time. At least i hope Sony have taken that into consideration when deciding what wattage PSU to use or else the even more demanding games in the future could make it asplode. :eek:


[EDIT] But as your post above has already stated, a half decent media PC will use less powah than the PS3.
 
Hmm, is it possible to have a small formfactor PC that accepts commands from a remote?

I particularily like the idea of PS3's bluetooth remote - means I can control the music whilst on my patio :D
 
I control itunes with my ipod touch. As long as the PC is connected to the same network as the touch you're good to go.
 
Hmm, it seems that there are a few bits of python script that can deal with the PS3 controller but it is described as a 'dirty hack'

TBH, having just thought about how it would work, I'd imagine it would be fairly simple - there are only so many buttons on the remote and then just write something to convert them into commands. If I wasn't so damned lazy and incompetent I'd have done it myself.
 
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