What happened to all the buzz around quick disconnect easy build loops?
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Never caught on as the cost was too high and rigid tubing became fashionable.
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I gave up years ago. AIO on the CPU and big air cooler on the GPU is good enough and a fraction of the cost/hassle of watercooling. Now everything is power limited there's no decent gains to he had from high end watercooling.
this is because my current plan is to go all Linus and have a server rack mounted personal PC
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Will you lie about testing it too and harass people in your workplace?
sorry couldn't resist 
Pretty much sums it up.
Watercooling is largeiy for aesthetics nowadays, as the performance gains are minimal. And all the quick disconnects i've seen take up room, and look 'ugly'.
IMO the only time quick disconnects will ever appeal is when the are built into the block, rad, pump etc and are about the same size as a current fitting - and no current manufacturer is going to go down that road due to RND expenense and a small market audience.
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This
With plenty of decent cases with excellent mesh panels, near silent fans, oversized GPU heatsinks and decent AIOs, watercooling is a hard sell.
Almost every week I think about it, but is too expensive now, and the price of a pump/reservoir can get you a 7800x3d instead a 7600. Or a whole custom loop can almost, if not completely, pay for a 4080.
Almost every week I think about it, but is too expensive now, and the price of a pump/reservoir can get you a 7800x3d instead a 7600. Or a whole custom loop can almost, if not completely, pay for a 4080.
Watercooling is only worth doing now if you already have the gear to do so. Meaning you already own pumps, radiators etc and maybe just need the additional blocks and tubing to make it work, otherwise its just too expensive to get into for very little gain. I do love the quietness of a fully custom watercooled build though hence why i've never gone back into aircooling... yet.
Exactly this. Sure they look great and the possibility of a dead quiet high power system is tempting, but costs are incredible high.
Most actual GPUs don't get as hot as before (at least compare 3080 to 4080), and there isn't much headroom to push simply by going custom loop. The main advantage for GPU is noise levels. Another world.
For most users, an affordable Lian Li Lancool 216, few P12s under 800rpm is plenty.
Even splashing on T30s, still cheaper than few parts.
But there's scenarios where people still want to challenge themselves and build powerhouses inside tiny cases. Possible, but air won't cut it.
And scenarios where the system won't look pleasant aircooled. Love the way your build looks
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I genuinely have a near silent pc and it's cost sweet FA to achieve...Exactly this. Sure they look great and the possibility of a dead quiet high power system is tempting, but costs are incredible high.
Most actual GPUs don't get as hot as before (at least compare 3080 to 4080), and there isn't much headroom to push simply by going custom loop. The main advantage for GPU is noise levels. Another world.
For most users, an affordable Lian Li Lancool 216, few P12s under 800rpm is plenty.
Even splashing on T30s, still cheaper than few parts.
But there's scenarios where people still want to challenge themselves and build powerhouses inside tiny cases. Possible, but air won't cut it.
And scenarios where the system won't look pleasant aircooled. Love the way your build looks
You literally have to have the windows closed and sit dead still to ever so slightly hear the fans and I mean you'd have to concentrate very hard, even typing etc/moving about a bit would make them appear silent.
With even a bit of talking on a YT video playing, forget it. Silence.
All I have is 3 BeQuiet Pure Wings 2 fans, 2 140mm fronts, 1 120mm exhaust, a Peerless Assassin 120SE, 5700x, Asus Dual 4070, the cpu never goes above 57-62c, the 4070 never above 57c thus the 65c fan turn on never occurs, and everything is controlled by 5 seconds in my bios...
I have got the cpu in eco 45w mode but I have the same experience with it stock, and the 4070 is undervolted so runs at 105-145w max with RT in 4k native or dlss and I only play in 1440p native at ultra, it's only in a cheap Antec NX410 mesh asf mid case...
It also lives under the desk which is next to an airing cupboard and it's always ridiculously hot in here even in the winter and yet those are my temps... The fans cost me like £26.50 iirc all in which I replaced from the stock loud free ones the case came with...
Can't really beat this for what it is, I just wanted an extremely low footprint power usage 1440p gaming only rig. Even with speakers/amp/32" 165hz monitor i never use more than 280w... I frame cap any SP games to 60fps as why would I need anymore when not MP...
Living the dream haha.
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Quick disconnects are more common than ever, it's just that they're now focused more on the server/workstation space.
if your doing it for performance.. don't do it.
if your doing it for looks.. crack on
just remember its stupid expensive, and tbf now days you wont get anything air cant get you.
I've been on water for nearly 20 years. There still gains to be had. or you have your stock GPU/CPU fans set to ear bleed
Just seems odd to me that people would tell people not to in this section. It's like me going into the crypto section and saying don't do it. Why not? That's what they want to do
My 5800x and 3090 both dropped by about 10c but they was only low 70’s on air so water cooling the system cost me £500 ish and I gained nothing. No over clocking headroom nothing.
But it looked cool and that’s what I was going for
But it looked cool and that’s what I was going for
Honestly, it's a nice to have. Yeah, things run cooler, are mostly quieter and it certainly looks a lot better in my opinion. But, the cost is insane. I just bought a 4090 FE it's cost me an additional £350 for the EK ABP set. Which I've only done because the rest of my stuff is hardline water-cooled and I'm tied in to the EK matrix 7 ecosystem. But this will be my final foray into the world of water cooling.
A big CPU air cooler with proper fan control (or an AIO but it won't be as reliable long term), big slow case fans and a modern GPU with an oversized cooler on it really pulls back the noise. Is it louder than a full watercooling setup? Yeah, absolutely, but it's not like it used to be when GPUs had blower fans and it wasn't quite as common to alter your fan speeds. If you don't have your computer on your desk, or if you wear headphones then for the sake of a bit of noise I can't really recommend watercooling. Especially when you consider any maintenance you may need to do to your PC.
The cost to achieve that level of quiet really is insane now, it was cheaper to get into watercooling even 5 years ago, let alone 10.
But that's looking at it objectively, I watercool because I already have most of what I'll ever need, and I just enjoy tinkering, it's a hobby. But from a pure cost point of view it isn't worth it just to achieve slightly lower temperatures and reduce a bit of noise. Not anymore.
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