what happened to AMD X2 CPU coolers ?

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just putting together a basic system for work, its a dual core AM2 5000 CPU and as no clocking is needed i am using the standard cooler and the system just shuts off after 15 minutes!

wiped gunk off and applied a nice layer of some AS2 and i get exactly the same thing. checked temps in bios and it idles at 46oC, when i check the bios after its shut off the temps are 78oC and falling but as soon as it comes under sustained load, *blink* off goes the system.


its a basic system, 1 hdd, 1 optical drive, 1 ATI 3450 and a 120mm fan front and rear.

i mean what utter crap, i love AMD but this is just bloody poor.

 

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perfectly fine, just so people know i have been building systems for 12 years so its not something thats new to me. ive truely never seen such poor quality. well, not since TIME computers were around.

 

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im confused as to how a system shutting itself down means AMD are crap, what psu have you got for that system? has there been any other crashes?

its the temps, as soon as the system shuts down, i turn it back on, go into the bios and check the hardware monitor, cpu is in the high 70`s which tells me the gigabyte board probably has an auto shut off between 80 and 90oC. there are no blue screens of anything like that. just straight forward off.

What condition is the AS2 in?
It can separate, though I'm not sure how hat affects things.

seems fine, i used it on other cpu`s recently.

 

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Have you installed a similar cooler before? Make sure you're turning the latch in the right direction. The latch should end up perfectly firm.

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sounds to me like its not on properly as frankly, many people are running AMD systems without it shutting down

ive had the cooler off already, the thermal gunks making good contact, was a nice even thin layer done with cling film over finger, 1 drops of AS2 the size of a grain of rice. all by the book.

 

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There are only a limited number of reasons for what is happening. High vcore, bad HSF contact or a faulty mobo. The cpu itself, cannot be the problem, unless it is faulty in some way. Regardless of the "many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many times." i am certain that it is a bad HSF contact, and the fault lies with you, not the cpu.

i never said it was the CPU. i think the coolers got a defect in it somewhere. possibly in the metals used.

 

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id love to try a third party program but that would involve being able to install an operating system or run a bartpe disk without the system cooking

 

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Don't you just love that, you can put together a super-dooper overclocked beast but when you try and do something really simple it all goes up the spout!

I think you will need to list full system specs if we are to get to the bottom of this (new/used etc)

One would think that after that long time building PCs you would know nearly all the answers to any hardware problems but no, there is always something new to make you start pulling your hair out.

From everything you've described its not clear what the issue is, you seem to have zoomed in on the HSF being the problem but it could just as well be some faulty memory, a bad PSU or a bad mobo?

You know the drill, good luck!

system spec (all new parts)

Gigabyte M68SM-S2L
AMD AM2 X2 5000 standard retail with stock HSF
Saphire HD3450
Shinobi case with generic 500 watt PSU
4 gig OCZ DDR 800
250 gig hitachi sata2
1 pioneer DVD drive.


Situation:
you start installing windows XP. the starting parts fine, you get through all the dos based copying of files, formatting drive, ect ect, this takes about ten minutes and then your system reboots and brings you into normal windows loading system,

5 to ten minutes into that, the temperature alarm sounds on the board, 5 minutes later the system shuts off. If you restart immediatly and go into the bios you will see the CPU @ 78oC and falling.

Solutions tried and tested,
reseating cpu, reseating HSF, cleaning off (with isopropyl) and reapplying thermal paste (AS2).


Solutions to try:
will try CPU in another AM2 system i have here. will also try using the other systems stock HSF

 

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well, it turns out it is indeed the heatsink... i have another am2 system with a sempron and stock HSF thats identical to the one that came with the dual core and the one off the sempron is fine, no problems.

now as the original hsf for the dual core is making good contact with the chip, and im using AS2, i can only presume there is some form of defect in the metals of this cooler.

 

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Defect in the metals of the cooler?

entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem

Occam's razor i take it,

 

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Is the cpu's core soldered to the heatplate or thermal pasted like older socket 939's.

It's a very strange problem if the contact on the IHS looks good.

Maybe the IHS isn't contacting with the CPU's core.

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it cant be the IHS otherwise the second cooler i used would have had the same result as the original one.