What happens to OLD OS?

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I've currently got an SSD and just bought an NVME now i'm just going to leave the SSD in there (with OS on) and install new OS on the NVME and change boot priority to the NVME but what happens to the OS on the SSD can i just delete it, is that possible?
 
I'd remove the old drive before installing OS on the new. May not be necessary, but it saves potential issues with it thinking you want to dual boot etc. You can then reinstall the old drive after installation and copy any files from it before formatting.
 
Minstadave said:
You don’t need to do a secure erase, that’s just causing pointless drive wear. Just delete all partitions and format it fresh.
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That is nonsense, fully formatting/erasing in Windows a SSD causes wear that is why you are supposed to secure erase it, i used to use software but my Mobo Bios Tool do it now.

Also only have the boot drive connected when installing Windows as it has a bad habit of putting the other set up partition on the other drives and its a bit of a headache.
 
b00merang69 said:
That is nonsense, fully formatting/erasing in Windows a SSD causes wear that is why you are supposed to secure erase it, i used to use software but my Mobo Bios Tool do it now.

Also only have the boot drive connected when installing Windows as it has a bad habit of putting the other set up partition on the other drives and its a bit of a headache.
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A secure erase causes a full drive write and removes all data from a drive, you don’t need to do this unless passing the drive on to someone else.

Deleting the partitions and a quick format is all that’s needed, which doesn’t write to the whole drive, just clears the file table.
 
No it doesn't, that is a full format in Windows that would be a dumb thing to do.

A secure erase puts voltage over the Cells to erase and revive them back to (near) original performance)

A Quick or Full format will not do this so do not treat an SSD same as spinning rust.

I can easily see in my SDD life/health setting in the App that it add or removes nothing from its life cycle, doing what you say would take one whole 1TB off its life (1TB for a 1TB SSD ).
 
b00merang69 said:
No it doesn't, that is a full format in Windows that would be a dumb thing to do.

A secure erase puts voltage over the Cells to erase and revive them back to (near) original performance)

A Quick or Full format will not do this so do not treat an SSD same as spinning rust.
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Why do you want to secure erase the drive if you’re just keeping it for storage? It’s just causing unneccessary wear. All modern SSDs are quite capable of managing their performance without a manual secure erase.

It doesn’t even need a full format. Just reconnect the old drive after installing to the new SSD, delete the partitions and make a new one. Windows doesn’t need to fully format that new partition.
 
You do not have a clue what you talking about, he wants it empty and I assume full performance to start fresh and as other user said it may have partitions on it.

I advise you go and look up what Secure Erase does as Trim and Garbage Collection are not the same.

I am not going to reply yo any more of your nonsense in this thread.
 
b00merang69 said:
You do not have a clue what you talking about, he wants it empty and I assume full performance to start fresh and as other user said it may have partitions on it.

I advise you go and look up what Secure Erase does as Trim and Garbage Collection are not the same.

I am not going to reply yo any more of your nonsense in this thread.
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Did I hurt your feelings? I’d suggest you post some evidence rather than just being overconfident in what knowledge you think you have.

I understand what a secure erase is and what it does, but the OP really doesn’t need to do one to clear his SSD. On early SSDs a secure erase would restore some performance if heavily degrade, but it does that by an entire drive write, why bother if he’s not having issues? It’s just a waste of time and extra drive wear. You can clear a drive without a secure erase, as I’m sure you’ll agree.
 
Decided to try and educate you and knew you would need to reply.

Bellow is the old method I used when free but now cost £, now its a Bios Tool for newer Mobos and takes like 10secs in total.

I cannot believe you do not know this in this day and age, I treat my SSD like any other HDD no real special care but for one thing, I will never do a full format on it to even to sell it on to upgrade.

Secure erase then sell and same if I reinitialise Windows as I have done so before without secure erasing and SSD performance was down.


https://www.pcworld.com/article/2088341/how-to-restore-your-ssd-to-peak-performance.html
 
Well let’s see what Crucial recommend:

https://uk.crucial.com/gbr/en/how-to-format-a-solid-state-drive

“Formatting (actually re-formatting) a solid state drive (SSD) is a quick and simple process to restore the drive to a clean state, similar to when the drive was new. If you are looking to sell or donate your old drive, you will want to not only reformat your drive, but also erase all the data in a separate action.”

You neither need a full format or a secure erase for the OPs needs.

From your article:

“Update: The original version of the article implied that performing the secure erase function regularly could increase the performance of modern SSDs. The article has been updated to clarify the specific situations in which performing the secure erase function is beneficial.”

It’s out of date. There are a few old SSDs that would benefit from secure erasing, but I’ve not seen that recommended for years for modern drives.

 
Bad advise and as I said that is one whole size of your SSD gone from its life and I would not trust a Full format to fully wipe data would you (pron or credit card details store accounts)?

That is why you get apps that write over the same part X times like the tool in CCleaner etc (even Gov Wipe spec) and I would use them on a Mech HDD but not SSD.

Since you showed you can use Google you can do the same for why to "Secure erase vs Full Format an SSD".
 
b00merang69 said:
Bad advise and as I said that is one whole size of your SSD gone from its life and I would not trust a Full format to fully wipe data would you (pron or credit card details store accounts)?

That is why you get apps that write over the same part X times like the tool in CCleaner etc (even Gov Wipe spec) and I would use them on a Mech HDD but not SSD.

Since you showed you can use Google you can do the same for why to "Secure erase vs Full Format an SSD".
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The op is not selling the drive though, he doesn’t need to erase the data on it securely.

Also for about the 3rd or 4th time, I’m not recommending a full format either. Just delete partitions and quick format, just as Crucial recommend.
 
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