What is "Fast"?

MikeHiow said:
and I became quite accustomed to the clicking noise when throwing it in park whilst still moving. I even managed to get good at judging how long it'd take to stop.
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Why did you need to put it in park to do a J-turn? Or is that unrelated to the J-turn section of that story....
 
Id say an 8 sec car is a quick car, Infact id go to say that anything 170bhp+ is a fast car. Obviously power to weight makes a difference but any average car getting beyond that is quick.
 
The J-turns and throwing it in park whilst still moving were two separate happenings.


steelwolf said:
Id say an 8 sec car is a quick car, Infact id go to say that anything 170bhp+ is a fast car. Obviously power to weight makes a difference but any average car getting beyond that is quick.
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My Mondeo has 170BHP, and I don't think that is quick, but then I think it is a fair bit slower than 8 seconds to 60.

Edit: oh, it is 8.2 seconds according to the internet :o
 
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whitecrook said:
lul wut...

Park is a physical lock in the gearbox, you can't do that unless you break something, or something is already broken.
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Of course, manufacturers didn't think some kind of fail safe might be a good idea?

No idea how it works personally, some kind of relief ratchet? But it doesn't break (can't guarantee it isn't doing any harm mind.)
 
whitecrook said:
lul wut...

Park is a physical lock in the gearbox, you can't do that unless you break something, or something is already broken.
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No, if you put an autobox into park while moving the parking pawl, which stops the rear wheels from turning, won't engage. It'll try to - hence the click-click-click noise - but it can't engage until the transmission has stopped rotating. This is done to prevent it locking the rear wheels and damaging the internals of the gearbox or causing the car to spin out of control.

It causes a bit of wear and tear, and it isn't recommended (as you could break the pawl) but then you'd just end up with a gearbox with no park setting.
 
For a 14 year old car, and an auto at that, I'd say 8seconds or so to 60 and a V-Max of double the national limit should be fast enough!

That said, fast can be 30MPH on a steep hill with a lot of weight behind you....

Its all relative imo.

The (Mk 1 or 2) Escort RS2000 ,in its day, was a fast car by anybodys standards, today, a Fiesta shopping trolly will trounce it.....

Fast can be many different speeds, on many different roads.

Straight line? 150+ MPH can be surprisingly boring, equally 40MPH on a twisty single track road can be the ride of your life.

As I say, relative.
 
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MikeHiow said:
The J-turns and throwing it in park whilst still moving were two separate happenings.




My Mondeo has 170BHP, and I don't think that is quick, but then I think it is a fair bit slower than 8 seconds to 60.

Edit: oh, it is 8.2 seconds according to the internet :o
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Quick considering about probably 80 percent of cars in the uk are < 1800cc

So against most cars its pretty quick. Every quick car and bike ive had has after about 2 weeks felt like they had lost loads of power.

If i drove a bugatti veyron my whole life and then jamp in a imprezza the imprezza would feel slow, but its still a quick car.

i would say.
 
steelwolf said:
Every quick car and bike ive had has after about 2 weeks felt like they had lost loads of power.
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Ahh, that brings back memorys of the RS Turbo.

First few weeks, 132BHP - Wow! Then it got a bit Meh, lost a bit (actually nope, I was just used to it) one 175BHP "upgrade" later, all was good again, for a few weeks..... Then guess what?

210BHP and yes it was fast again in a straight line but the torque steer was getting a bit of a handful.....

Strangely enough, going from the 210BHP escort to a 150BHP Sierra XR 4x4 was a real surprise, less grunt, more weight, but loads of traction.

By god that was actually - point to point - much much faster...... Then I started reading of "Power engineering"'s Supercharger conversions....

If I was to buy an e60 M5 tomorrow, I'm fairly confident I'd soon be looking to tweak it , and so the cycle goes.
 
Fast is relative to time. That red Dolomite Sprint in Lashouts's sig was fast in its day. Back then 8.4 to 60 was fast. (But TBH I'd rather have the 3.5 that's also in his sig and its my favorite col-combo on that car too white over blue.)
 
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