What is "Fast"?

Maybe Mike was driving his Focus on crack until some magical M3 appeared which struggled to hit 100 as fast as a Focus yet as soon as it hit 101 it disappeared off down the road.
 
Maybe Mike was driving his Focus on crack until some magical M3 appeared which struggled to hit 100 as fast as a Focus yet as soon as it hit 101 it disappeared off down the road.

I think this is all getting abit unfair on Mike... who's to say the story isn't true, I'd prefer to believe the driver of the ST over someone who drives a Fiesta tbh (not being nasty)

Not having a dig but the whole IES (instant expert syndrome) in the forum is ruining it..

In a roll on at moderate speeds the person who gets ahead is the person who gets on the power first....unless you're up against something with a lot more power.

I did a roll on test with my old ZX10 against a 12 year old blade, I should have stuffed it, but he got on the power first and walked away, I took agaes to reel in despite being a much faster bike

I think some of you were bullied at school :D
 
I think this is all getting abit unfair on Mike... who's to say the story isn't true, I'd prefer to believe the driver of the ST over someone who drives a Fiesta tbh (not being nasty)

No you're not being nasty, you are being unbelievably naive. Oh I believe him because he drives a Focus ST, I won't believe him because he drives a Fiesta. Just LOL :D

Not having a dig but the whole IES (instant expert syndrome) in the forum is ruining it..

The biggest culprit being Mike H who seems to be one of those irritating people that has a story for every situation, you know the type.
 
[TW]Fox;17644514 said:
I don't beleive Flukester because he has an i10.

Nice one :), my daily drive does a 10s 1/4 so makes my opinion of high performance far more informed than a fiesta driver.

Only a fool could argue against that ;)

The above is similar in Mike drives a ST, a different animal to a Fiesta also, he would have by default, understand real world performance better than someone who just knows about performance by reading teh webnet


edit: I believe Mike got a jump on a m3 in a roll on, and it would have taken up to around 100 for the m3 to claw back... it's a case of who got on power first.
 
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Keep it coming, genuine LOLs here :D

This has nothing to do with knowledge, it's to do with making your story line up and make sense. Something that Mike H is incapable of doing. Regardless if there's a Fiesta outside my house or not.
 
The biggest culprit being Mike H who seems to be one of those irritating people that has a story for every situation, you know the type.

Some people have a lot of storys about stuff.. man I have loads, I'm just waiting for my epeen to shrink before unleashing them on your all :)
 
Regardless of who won what race i cant see what odds it makes what car Janesy drives, explain that bit again.
 
Regardless of who won what race i cant see what odds it makes what car Janesy drives, explain that bit again.

Well, Janesy was ripping Mike to shreds like he's a expert on doing rollons in a high perf car... all I was saying is that the fact of owning a ordinary fiesta makes it very unlikely he has ever performed roll on testing so doesn't understand or has considered the 'who gets on power first' chesnut

The story is plausable, thats all Im saying, but no-one else here seems to understand that.

I'm sure mike knows the m3 will tear the stick on bodywork from his ST as it flys past, but from 60-100, who has the fastest foot probably wins... or at least who was paying attention
 
Well, Janesy was ripping Mike to shreds like he's a expert on doing rollons in a high perf car... all I was saying is that the fact of owning a ordinary fiesta makes it very unlikely he has ever performed roll on testing so doesn't understand or has considered the 'who gets on power first' chesnut

Thats a bit silly.

A bit like saying my mate who drives an old e36 318ti's opinion is invalid due to his car....

He holds a competition / racing licence, works for a BMW race specialist and is a member of the BRDC.

Far more qualified on most things car / speed related than I would you not agree?

Or is my opinion more valid as my cars engine has 2 extra pots and is a litre bigger?

No?
 
Well, Janesy was ripping Mike to shreds like he's a expert on doing rollons in a high perf car... all I was saying is that the fact of owning a ordinary fiesta makes it very unlikely he has ever performed roll on testing so doesn't understand or has considered the 'who gets on power first' chesnut

The story is plausable, thats all Im saying, but no-one else here seems to understand that.

I'm sure mike knows the m3 will tear the stick on bodywork from his ST as it flys past, but from 60-100, who has the fastest foot probably wins... or at least who was paying attention

Ah right i see.

I believe it probably happened too, i just cant understand why Mike complicates these stories with BHP degradation over time inserts and all the rest, why didnt he just say he got off to the better start and job done.
 
Well, Janesy was ripping Mike to shreds like he's a expert on doing rollons in a high perf car... all I was saying is that the fact of owning a ordinary fiesta makes it very unlikely he has ever performed roll on testing so doesn't understand or has considered the 'who gets on power first' chesnut

The story is plausable, thats all Im saying, but no-one else here seems to understand that.

I'm sure mike knows the m3 will tear the stick on bodywork from his ST as it flys past, but from 60-100, who has the fastest foot probably wins... or at least who was paying attention

No matter who got on the power first, the M3 is still the faster car. People do understand this, right?
 
Well, Janesy was ripping Mike to shreds like he's a expert on doing rollons in a high perf car... all I was saying is that the fact of owning a ordinary fiesta makes it very unlikely he has ever performed roll on testing so doesn't understand or has considered the 'who gets on power first' chesnut

The story is plausable, thats all Im saying, but no-one else here seems to understand that.

I'm sure mike knows the m3 will tear the stick on bodywork from his ST as it flys past, but from 60-100, who has the fastest foot probably wins... or at least who was paying attention

Hardly ripping him to shreds considering I entered the thread one page ago. The story isn't plausible because of the distance of that road and secondly the timings of it. According to Mike H he raced it over a year ago, in his ST. The ST he got in January?
 
I would urge some caution, if the M3 was not in the right gear or ready for it then I can see why this might give the impression of an ST being pretty much as quick, which of course it isn't. M3 needs to be revved to get it doing what it does best, I had a few occasions when some diesel lump would haul ass in front quicker than I'd expect purely because I was in 6th and flooring it when he probably wasn't. Drop a couple of cogs and Mr Diesel becomes a small dot in my mirror but when just plodding along and not stiring the cogs you can seem a bit ponderous...though that is a relative term of course.

Fact is an ST is somewhat off an M3 and to imply anything else or fain surprise when basically you came up against one who wasn't fully on it is silly. Side by side an ST would have it's arse handed to it by an M3 and over the ton it would gap the Ford at epic levels. These road 'events' are far from controlled...or that relevant come to think of it.
 
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