What Motherboard for 7800X3D/9800X3D

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I am looking to build either a 7800X3D setup or waiting for a little bit and getting a 9800X3D. What motherboard is the go to. My usage is just gaming. No productivity at all. Other considerations it has to be White/Silver and it has to have optical out.

The last AMD setup I owned was the 5950x and Gigabyte B550 combo.

I don't really have a set budget for the motherboard so as long as it under £1000
 
Prime B650-Plus is the cheapest with spdif that I can see (black PCB, silver sinks). Thermal performance is not great, but would be fine with the 7800X3D.

MSI B650 Edge would be a pricier alternative (black PCB, white/grey sinks).

If you want USB4, X870 Pro RS/Steel Legend (white PCB, white/grey sinks) or X870 Aorus Elite AX Ice (white PCB, white/grey sinks)
 
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Tetras said:
Prime B650-Plus is the cheapest with spdif that I can see (black PCB, silver sinks). Thermal performance is not great, but would be fine with the 7800X3D.

MSI B650 Edge would be a pricier alternative (black PCB, white/grey sinks).

If you want USB4, X870 Pro RS/Steel Legend (white PCB, white/grey sinks) or X870 Aorus Elite AX Ice (white PCB, white/grey sinks)
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Thanks for your suggestions. I have been looking at the X870 Aorus Elite AX ICE for the past few days. Can I ask what the diff between X870 and X870E?
 
GoRedwings19 said:
Thanks for your suggestions. I have been looking at the X870 Aorus Elite AX ICE for the past few days. Can I ask what the diff between X870 and X870E?
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X870 is essentially a rebrand of B650E so has less lanes on the chipset.

If you plan to use more than 2 M.2 the Aorus will cut the GPU down to X8 mode.

Have you had a look at the X870 steel legend? it has an 8 layer PCB vs 6 on the Aorus, better onboard audio and you can use all 3 M.2 without effecting the GPU lanes. You do however lose the postcode and GPU quick release although it does come in a bit cheaper.
 
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once x8xx series motherboards come out, i'd get any of the x670/b650 motherboards at a lower price. I don't see any benefit with these new motherboards besides the mandatory USB4 support.. especially as others have mentioned, the x870 is essentially a rebranded x670e motherboard.

If you 'need' USB4, then the Asrock Taichi 6xx series is the only board with it
 
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Use this spreadsheet to compare

docs.google.com

AM5 Motherboards Sheet (X870/X670/B650/A620)

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I was in the same boat as you, especially about the spdif out and just went with a board that had it in my price range with the highest ALC number because higher=better right? NO! avoid the ALC4080 if you want spdif out it is awful. I've ended up spending another £60+ changing my audio set up away from spdif as it's that annoying. this is on a b650 tomahawk btw. I just wanted something cheap as i picked up a 7800X3D for £280 so the whole upgrade was done as cheap as possible without losing too many features.

7800X3D performance is great though on the b650. With minimal RAM tweaking and running a curve offset I score just about 19k on CR23
 
Finners said:
Use this spreadsheet to compare

docs.google.com

AM5 Motherboards Sheet (X870/X670/B650/A620)

docs.google.com docs.google.com

I was in the same boat as you, especially about the spdif out and just went with a board that had it in my price range with the highest ALC number because higher=better right? NO! avoid the ALC4080 if you want spdif out it is awful. I've ended up spending another £60+ changing my audio set up away from spdif as it's that annoying. this is on a b650 tomahawk btw. I just wanted something cheap as i picked up a 7800X3D for £280 so the whole upgrade was done as cheap as possible without losing too many features.

7800X3D performance is great though on the b650. With minimal RAM tweaking and running a curve offset I score just about 19k on CR23
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My plan is to use SPdif to an external dac. I never use onboard sound. I would like to build a new gaming setup and connect it to my dac of my hi fi.
 
GoRedwings19 said:
My plan is to use SPdif to an external dac. I never use onboard sound. I would like to build a new gaming setup and connect it to my dac of my hi fi.
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Google spdif issues with alc4080, web is full of issues with pop and crackling noise and the ALC4080 is actually a hardwired USB device. I've never seen a set up like it before on a motherboardI. If you have to use spdif save yourself the headache and just avoid the ALC4080 chip set.
 
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GoRedwings19 said:
Thanks for your suggestions. I have been looking at the X870 Aorus Elite AX ICE for the past few days. Can I ask what the diff between X870 and X870E?
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I’m going to ask Buildzoid via Twitter if there is any benefit with going with X870 over X670/B650 for memory overclocking but at £270, that motherboard is a little too expensive when you can spend ~£80 less and get very similar features.
 
GoRedwings19 said:
My plan is to use SPdif to an external dac. I never use onboard sound. I would like to build a new gaming setup and connect it to my dac of my hi fi.
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I would recommend buying any board that fits your requirements minus SPDIF and purchase a sound card for SPDIF instead. If you are an audiophile, onboard audio is not the way to go.

As for a specific board: pick up an X670/B650 board that has a solid discount with the X870 release having veered around the corner already. For a gamer or someone that has no interest in USB4, X870 is just an increased cost. Pretty much any AM5 board nowadays can run 6000MT/s at 30-x-x-x with the right mem (check QVL lists) to complement the 7800X3D best. Any board can power a 7800X3D so going overkill on the VRM is of no benefit unless you expect to purchase a more power hungry CPU in the future. 7800X3D and 6000MT/s 30-x-x-x will be an ideal set-and-forget setup.

Rumours have started to circulate that the 9800X3D is going to be 12% faster in MT and 16% faster in ST than 7800X3D based on Cinebench scores. If it's less than or equal to 16% more expensive, it could be a good buy. It's allgedly launching at the end of this month.
 
aaronyuri said:
I would recommend buying any board that fits your requirements minus SPDIF and purchase a sound card for SPDIF instead. If you are an audiophile, onboard audio is not the way to go.

As for a specific board: pick up an X670/B650 board that has a solid discount with the X870 release having veered around the corner already. For a gamer or someone that has no interest in USB4, X870 is just an increased cost. Pretty much any AM5 board nowadays can run 6000MT/s at 30-x-x-x with the right mem (check QVL lists) to complement the 7800X3D best. Any board can power a 7800X3D so going overkill on the VRM is of no benefit unless you expect to purchase a more power hungry CPU in the future. 7800X3D and 6000MT/s 30-x-x-x will be an ideal set-and-forget setup.

Rumours have started to circulate that the 9800X3D is going to be 12% faster in MT and 16% faster in ST than 7800X3D based on Cinebench scores. If it's less than or equal to 16% more expensive, it could be a good buy. It's allgedly launching at the end of this month.
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If he's using onboard sound digital out then sound quality for onboard is irrelevant. It's digital.
 
hornetstinger said:
If he's using onboard sound digital out then sound quality for onboard is irrelevant. It's digital.
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I understand how you can interpret that but that isn't what I specifically stated nor compared in my post.

My point was that overpaying on a board just to get SPDIF is not worth it when you can purchase a dedicated sound card instead. And if you are an audiophile, a sound card is the way to go. Thank you for your insight on your interpretation.
 
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