What MP3 bitrate is equivalent to uncompressed?

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Which MP3 bitrate is equivalent to uncompressed CD? So I hear all the cymbals, high bits and grittiness from the CD original. Should I just go for 320 every time, or does that still miss some bits?

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1) Must be MP3. No ginger linux formats, please.

Thats it. :D
 
Chronos-X said:
Hiya

Which MP3 bitrate is equivalent to uncompressed CD? So I hear all the cymbals, high bits and grittiness from the CD original. Should I just go for 320 every time, or does that still miss some bits?

Conditions:

1) Must be MP3. No ginger linux formats, please.

Thats it. :D

320kps is still discarding information, so it's not equal although audibly it might seem equal. If you want high quality files rip to FLAC, it'll take up several hundred megabytes per album though.
 
Should also have said, what are you listening to them on? Unless you're using a kick ass stereo system you probably won't be able to tell the difference between anything over 192. If you think you can, do a search for DRZ's bitrate comparison.
 
Same thing. Some people prefer AAC/Ogg/etc. to MP3, so in principle, you -may- be able to get the same -perceived- quality at lower bitrate. But there is no universal agreement. Once again, try it.
 
I am probably being stupid but the data on a cd is only 750mb at most ( it originally only was around 650 I seem to remember but somehow they extended them I guess)

ok so I agree that is in wav files , if mp3 players had compatability with this format ( I dont know whether they do or not , but I am inclined to think not) from a pc only point of view, surely this would be the best format to burn them into , music playing software obviously understands this format and it is totally original file - so why not just keep to that ( if the cd in an mp3 is going to total more than this 800mb)
 
It all depends on the amount of storage space that you have on offer. I have 250 CDs. If we assume that every one holds 650 Mb (most are less) then I'd be looking at 160 Gb to hold the lot. Not a small amount of space, but perfectly feesable these days. Consider though the people who have 2500 CDs. 1.6 Tb is a lot of space still, especially for just a music store.
 
FrankJH said:
I am probably being stupid but the data on a cd is only 750mb at most ( it originally only was around 650 I seem to remember but somehow they extended them I guess)

ok so I agree that is in wav files , if mp3 players had compatability with this format ( I dont know whether they do or not , but I am inclined to think not) from a pc only point of view, surely this would be the best format to burn them into , music playing software obviously understands this format and it is totally original file - so why not just keep to that ( if the cd in an mp3 is going to total more than this 800mb)


Use Flac, it's lossless but it still manages to compress the music, but nothing is thrown away. It probably works like winzip/winrar. However MP3 and OGG are lossy although personally I prefer the sound of OGG and encode with that.
 
Check hydrogenaudio - they have good listening tests.

-v 0 (abr ~224) is good enough for me on my squeezebox and Arcam amp.

You can still tell the difference between that and CD, but it's good enough not to notice too much.
 
I misread squiffy's post about several hundred meg as being seven hundred meg lol which is what my comment about wav's was regarding

sorrry for the confusion folks
 
tom_nieto said:
Should also have said, what are you listening to them on? Unless you're using a kick ass stereo system you probably won't be able to tell the difference between anything over 192. If you think you can, do a search for DRZ's bitrate comparison.

Don't agree - I have Sennheiser eH250 headphones through onboard sound, and I can notice the difference between a 192 and a 320. Of course, could be because I switched to dBPowerAmp after the 192-rip, so it could be a better quality codec :)

I've found 320kbps with the LAME codec great quality. Not as good as FLAC, but less space.
 
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