What speakers best do I need here

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Which speakers would best replace the four corner speakers in this room?
They are wired in behind the walls with the pictured cables to plug into an amplifier, which I also need to replace.
The wires connecting to the speakers themselves are two thin wires.
Thanks in advance

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Corner speakers are bad. It's hard to do it properly. Also 4.1 is dead, and has been for a long time. Get yourself a decent 2.1 or 3.1 setup with a nice amp. Or if you want to go idiot proof get the sonos soundbar with matching subwoofer. Sounds great.

Going 4.0/4.1 just because the seller foolishly set the system up this way and the cables are already in the wall is foolish IMO and you can do a lot better.
 
As above, that setup is awful.

1 - speakers don't belong in corners, even those cheap QA speakers.
2 - They're far too high. Speakers should be at ear level or slightly above.
3 - That TV is too high (this is more subjective though)

But to answer the question -

4 of those exact speakers - £99 a pair/£200
https://www.richersounds.com/q-acoustics-2010i-graph-pr.html
Amp/AVR - 150-200
https://www.richersounds.com/tv-home-cinema/av-receivers/denon-avrx520bt.html

Half that if bought used (easily doable, as very common gear).
 
What about the subwoofer, if there is one?

If there isn't, he may have a stereo amplifier outputting to all 4 speakers, rather than an AV receiver.
 
As above, that setup is awful.

1 - speakers don't belong in corners, even those cheap QA speakers.
2 - They're far too high. Speakers should be at ear level or slightly above.
3 - That TV is too high (this is more subjective though)

But to answer the question -

4 of those exact speakers - £99 a pair/£200
https://www.richersounds.com/q-acoustics-2010i-graph-pr.html
Amp/AVR - 150-200
https://www.richersounds.com/tv-home-cinema/av-receivers/denon-avrx520bt.html

Half that if bought used (easily doable, as very common gear).

Yes, thank you. Honestly modern sound engineering has gotten us to a point where you can match the performance of a much larger system with a high quality smaller system. The Sonos soundbar and subwoofer (1500ish pound total) are exceptional and will reduce room clutter. No need for an amp.

If you want to go cheaper and stick with soundbars, Yamaha's mid and high end are more affordable and are very highly rated.

If you want to get a proper setup, get a high quality AV receiver, and pick up a 3.1 setup from a good speaker maker. Will this sound better than the sonos setup? That depends entirely on the room size and shape and what's in it as well as speaker positioning and your personal tastes.

There are also the "Home theater in a box" packages of which the low end are quite blurg and the high end is hit and miss. Totem (A Canadian make) produce the Totem Kin 2.1 home theater in a box (which is not so much of a home theater since its 2.1) but it sounds freaking amazing. Probably looking at 2000+ pound for that one, + receiver cost.

Something that would probably sound amazing is KEF LS50s and a sub, but mis-matching subs is a crime IMO and KEF subs are very meh in the grand scheme of things. Also LS50s demand a high quality amp to get the most out of them. That would not be a cheap setup. But you'd have british speakers.

I screwed around in the high end audio scene for awhile. I had a $3000 setup hooked up to my TV. Now I have a $600 Polk soundbar/sub and movies sound more exciting if perhaps lacking a tinge of fidelity comparatively speaking. The shape of the room and the obligatory (wife :() positioning of the setup did not lend itself to seperate av components.

4.1 isn't dead. It's just 5.1 without the center speaker (Phantom mode) In your AVR just select center to none

Technically Necromancing and voodoo aren't dead either. The question is are they common and pushed to the consumer, and the answer is no. Nowhere will you find a 4.1 setup for sale these days. Can you do it? Yes. Should you? No, because adding the center channel really improves things. JM2C.
 
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I screwed around in the high end audio scene for awhile. I had a $3000 setup hooked up to my TV.
Lol... You said high end audio and then that it was a $3000 setup... Some hifi snobs would shoot you down for that!! Thats the cost of a medium spec pair of speakers in some circles... ;)
Second hand or DIY (if you have the skills) is the way to go, second hand you can pick up some absolute bargain kit that is superb and would

I have heard a few sound bars with subs but none come close to a proper hifi... In my instance its a 2.2 setup, pair of floorstanders (ERGO IX, diy speakers), pair of BK Elec monolith subs (each one is a 12" ported sub), NC400 amp modules and a modified Audiolab MDac. I am lucky in that I am able to build/modify my own kit and save a fortune in the process. The speakers I built are a well known design that outclasses some very expensive kit.

Scour the second hand markets (gumtree, ebay etc) and forums (I am a regular on Pink Fish media) for kit for sale, check reviews and forums for peoples thoughts and 'real' second hand pricing and get a bargain. If you dont like the sound usually it can be sold on again for no loss so you can try something else. Bargains ARE out there!

Now I have a $600 Polk soundbar/sub and movies sound more exciting if perhaps lacking a tinge of fidelity comparatively speaking. The shape of the room and the obligatory (wife :() positioning of the setup did not lend itself to seperate av components.

I am fortunate that my other half likes how it looks, carefully chosen so that it matches the room and sort of vanishes. its hard to vanish a pair of subs that stand over half meter wall and 40cm wide, but the oak finish matches the other room furniture, and as the are down firing (speaker on bottom) they just look like nice oak boxes... :)


IMO, OP - Get a fair of second hand floorstanders, position then half way along either side of the TV.. Pick a suitable second hand amp and a DAC if needed and go from there. Buying second hand wont cost the earth and if (when) you decide to upgrade you wont loose much selling them.
 
Yes, thank you. Honestly modern sound engineering has gotten us to a point where you can match the performance of a much larger system with a high quality smaller system. The Sonos soundbar and subwoofer (1500ish pound total) are exceptional and will reduce room clutter. No need for an amp.

If you want to go cheaper and stick with soundbars, Yamaha's mid and high end are more affordable and are very highly rated.

If you want to get a proper setup, get a high quality AV receiver, and pick up a 3.1 setup from a good speaker maker. Will this sound better than the sonos setup? That depends entirely on the room size and shape and what's in it as well as speaker positioning and your personal tastes.

There are also the "Home theater in a box" packages of which the low end are quite blurg and the high end is hit and miss. Totem (A Canadian make) produce the Totem Kin 2.1 home theater in a box (which is not so much of a home theater since its 2.1) but it sounds freaking amazing. Probably looking at 2000+ pound for that one, + receiver cost.

Something that would probably sound amazing is KEF LS50s and a sub, but mis-matching subs is a crime IMO and KEF subs are very meh in the grand scheme of things. Also LS50s demand a high quality amp to get the most out of them. That would not be a cheap setup. But you'd have british speakers.

I screwed around in the high end audio scene for awhile. I had a $3000 setup hooked up to my TV. Now I have a $600 Polk soundbar/sub and movies sound more exciting if perhaps lacking a tinge of fidelity comparatively speaking. The shape of the room and the obligatory (wife :() positioning of the setup did not lend itself to seperate av components.



Technically Necromancing and voodoo aren't dead either. The question is are they common and pushed to the consumer, and the answer is no. Nowhere will you find a 4.1 setup for sale these days. Can you do it? Yes. Should you? No, because adding the center channel really improves things. JM2C.

Soundbars are in no way comparable to a speaker based system of the same price. For 1500 you can buy the MA Bronze 5 5.1 cinema package. That will **** all over that Sonos nonsense.

Mis-matching subs/speakers doesn't matter. All subs do is output LFE. Some subs just do a better job of it then others. High end subs run into 5 figures...

3k isn't high end. I've spent more on a center speaker. High end audio gear will start at £xxx,xxx and run into £x,xxx,xxx.
 
Soundbars are in no way comparable to a speaker based system of the same price. For 1500 you can buy the MA Bronze 5 5.1 cinema package. That will **** all over that Sonos nonsense.

Mis-matching subs/speakers doesn't matter. All subs do is output LFE. Some subs just do a better job of it then others. High end subs run into 5 figures...

3k isn't high end. I've spent more on a center speaker. High end audio gear will start at £xxx,xxx and run into £x,xxx,xxx.

I'm poor and $3000 was high end to me. Probably as high end as I'll ever go. Don't **** on my memories please.
I'm not a rich person.
 
I'm poor and $3000 was high end to me. Probably as high end as I'll ever go. Don't **** on my memories please.
I'm not a rich person.

lol.

The mega £££££ systems are just that, dream systems made of very expensive bits.
Dont let anyone tell you otherwise, £3k if used carefully can get you a very good system.
 
I'm poor and $3000 was high end to me. Probably as high end as I'll ever go. Don't **** on my memories please.
I'm not a rich person.

Yup $3000 isn't high end. For that can you get a decent, midrange system.

I'd say high end is $3000 per component (or indeed more)

"Technically Necromancing and voodoo aren't dead either. The question is are they common and pushed to the consumer, and the answer is no. Nowhere will you find a 4.1 setup for sale these days. Can you do it? Yes. Should you? No, because adding the center channel really improves things. JM2C."

I've used a 4.1 or 4.0 system for the computer gaming rig. Works fine, and didn't want the center because it's fine without it.
 
That room looks acoustically challenging! Start with the TV is off center, the floors are solid and will reflect and the 4 corner/top positions are wrong.

Problem you have is the 4 corner are set in the wall, so if you move there will be messy holes / wires in wrong place.

You have to ask yourself if you want to accept some form of digital surround, or just go 2.0.

I think I would go with some floor standing speakers either side of the TV.
 
Yup $3000 isn't high end. For that can you get a decent, midrange system.

I'd say high end is $3000 per component (or indeed more)

"Technically Necromancing and voodoo aren't dead either. The question is are they common and pushed to the consumer, and the answer is no. Nowhere will you find a 4.1 setup for sale these days. Can you do it? Yes. Should you? No, because adding the center channel really improves things. JM2C."

I've used a 4.1 or 4.0 system for the computer gaming rig. Works fine, and didn't want the center because it's fine without it.

It isn't really about whether they are dead or not as such anyhow - plenty of media has multi-channel audio available that can be reproduced with arbitrary amount of speakers fine though we are in a funny place at the moment where a lot of stuff on Netflix, Amazon, etc. is basically stereo or is plain stereo or you need very specific setups to get surround audio, etc.

Years back I had a fairly high end KEF setup that was just 4.1 but would have destroyed many a 5.1 setup despite the lack of dedicated centre channel (though the hardware I had could be configured to reproduce a virtual centre channel).

That said I wouldn't rush to a 4/4.1 setup just because - there is often no real reason to pick it over other options.
 
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