what used office machine for unraid

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Hi i found a local charity place who do office clearances and resell anything they can so i was going to give them a call to see if they had any low powered systems for sale i3,i5 type, so could you help on what to ask for if they had any for sale, failing that i have a Gigabyte F2A85XM-D3H board with an AMD A10-6700 APU running atm so will also ask if any ddr3 ram ?
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I can't recommend anything specific. But I think something to look out for is how many drives the .other board will support, more than thr CPU.

I run Unraid on an old HP Microserver N40L. The CPU is old and slow. So I can't use it for much more than just a NAS. But it takes 8gb RAM and you can add up to 6 drives with a bit of hacking (4 in the front, an eSATA, a hack for the optical SATA drive to run full speed), plus you can run an SSD as cache drive in the PCIE slot.

So whatever you look at, see how many drives it supports. If you want protected data then you will need to run a parity drive. You might want to run a cache drive to speed up writes although this isn't essential. Then how many other drives will you need for data? In my experience ex business machines are often limited in this respect.
 
I have a couple Dell Optiplex running as Plex servers (low usage).

They are fine, and small form factor so easy to hide away.

Not sure they have more than 2 SATA connections which is generally going to be your issue in finding something ex-office that is suitable.
 
Mate you have no less than 7 threads on page 1 all talking about roughly the same thing.
 
Sorry just checked and not exactly the same but i get your point, i will ask elsewhere
My point was more so to create a thread with what you're trying to achieve, and then deep-dive into these detailed Qs.
 
I'd check I even wanted or needed unraid as it can be bloody complicated if it goes wrong.
 
I'd check I even wanted or needed unraid as it can be bloody complicated if it goes wrong.
i ran whs since it first came out and was happy with it, different drives drive pool and extender, but as they dropped support, i then tried truenas core for a year then scale for a short while but as i only wanted a media server and photo/files backup, i thought overkill, i am now trying unraid with plex and home assistant so i could remove my raspberry pi from the home setup and add to unraid, and with the disks spinning down i like it so far
 
i ran whs since it first came out and was happy with it, different drives drive pool and extender, but as they dropped support, i then tried truenas core for a year then scale for a short while but as i only wanted a media server and photo/files backup, i thought overkill, i am now trying unraid with plex and home assistant so i could remove my raspberry pi from the home setup and add to unraid, and with the disks spinning down i like it so far
Fair play. See my thread here where I went OTT many years back:

I am now perfectly happy with an old Dell Optiplex with a few disks thrown in running Win 10 Pro. For anything serious nowadays we use OneDrive.

Not trying to convert you, just letting you know my journey from super sophisticated to noddy. Much happier now as when there was a power cut before I'd be poo'ing myself that it'd grenade lol.
 
Get something running a haswell cpu or newer.
Given you don't know what the op is planning on running in any great detail, that could be amazing or awful advice. I run an fully loaded R210-II with a Sandybridge 1270v1, 32GB ECC, iDRAC etc, it idles sub 50w in Ubuntu, that's slightly lower than what my Ryzen builds pull idle (other than the A300), and a decent amount lower than my E5 V3/4's, it's also within a few almost watts of the 8th gen i3's/i5's, so efficiency and generations don't always follow. If they want to do hardware transcoding (Plex is mentioned in a subsequent post), then Haswell is still too early, you ideally need Kaby Lake for the UHD630 for HEVC and tone mapping to function properly *if* they have/intend to get PlexPass, which is essentially 8th gen upwards depending on the chip (some of the 7th gen mobiles got Iris Pro 650 and the Skylake Xeon's had P630's which iirc carried the same capabilities). If they want to do realtime gigabit hardware encryption via AES-NI or push 10Gbe then clock speed/core count is still an issue, but randomly throwing out a CPU generation with no context to base it on is just poor.

Op - you're walking a very well worn path, the first thing to do is make sure you're heading in the right direction. Do you understand the cost in terms of power, time and hardware at this point vs where you're heading? For example I am sat next to a silent half rack of servers and drive shelves, why are they silent? Because it's cheaper to run off-site box in a DC with symmetrical gigabit and mount cloud storage via rclone than it is to power an equivalent local server with way less local storage. That also ignores the up-front costs to buy, maintain and manage local storage and hardware along with the heat/noise and deal with backups. Ironically for a lot of what I do, it can actually be quicker (you loose in absolutely latency terms, but gain in terms of spinning up a local platter). OK if you're stuck on ADSL or other slow broadband, then this path isn't for you, but on an OK FTTC line or better, it works very well.

If you decide you prefer local, power needs to be considered, too often people buy what is essentially e-waste because they think they need a 'server'. I wouldn't personally touch anything lower than a 7th gen Xeon/mobile CPU with an appropriate iGPU (P630/IP 650), but generally you'll get a lot better value and more capable platform going with an 8th gen i3 at this point, they're efficient, had 4c and were largely comparable to the previous gen i5's and relatively modern HD630 iGPU's so you have tone mapping and full HEVC support, they're also available for next to nothing now. A simple ATX/MATX board and HBA (if required) along with the appropriate SATA break out cable will give you sufficient options to add local drives/NVMe for cache. Case wise whatever has enough room for what you need. Avoid high speed (10-15K SAS) and/or low density drives, avoid shingled drives, also consider that drive density may mean the cost per TB is higher, but that now needs to be balanced with w/TB and higher density - while perhaps not making absolute up-front financial sense - can make much more longer term sense.

In terms of HA, the Pi3 and 4 are decent hosts, much like virtualising a router, ask yourself what the impact of you taking down the host will be for reboots and upgrades or replacing a drive and if you (and potentially other users) are going to be OK with that or you trouble shooting an issue, the Pi4 isn't that power efficient by SBC or even Pi standards, but unless you are Ok with down time, it may be better to keep this bare metal depending on what exactly you are running/doing.

Plex wise, if you do go with local storage, with proper curation and encoding, you shouldn't need to transcode video for local clients, ever. So PlexPass has limited value, if for some reason you are still transcoding (phones/tablets, remote clients), that's got power/heat/noise implications. It'll either be a media issue (make better encoding/bit-rate choices), a connectivity issue (hard wire/make better bit-rate choices) or a client issue (modern clients shouldn't have any issues... Prime Day approaches, that first gen FTV needs to be taken out and shot) or you have no control over the remote client/connectivity (choose better friends/family, or get them better clients).
 
Hi thanks for the replies, atm I’m using an old A10 6700fm2 with 16Gb ddr3 ram, I have 4x4Tb one as a parity drive plus a 120Gb ssd cache drive. Atm I only use this machine for plex with home assistant and to store photos and files, I would like in the future to instal nextcloud
 
I'm using a Dell Optiplex 5070 with an i7-9700. Not too expensive to buy for a fairly modern machine.

I have an external HBA with a mini-SAS to SATA breakout adapter, and an external hard drive enclosure for my drives, and have 2 SSD cache drives internal. Works really well for my use case. Fairly low power usage for a fairly powerful CPU.
 
I run an old Xeon E3-1260l with 32Gb of ddr3, have card and 10 HDD's l, 1 NVME and a SATA SSD for cache and a 1050ti for transcoding on UnRaid. It rolls Plex and several other Dockers doesn't break a sweat, with the drives spun down docker runs on the NVME so keeps it all ticking, idle at less than 100w, drives auto spin down after 15mins.
 
I run an old Xeon E3-1260l with 32Gb of ddr3, have card and 10 HDD's l, 1 NVME and a SATA SSD for cache and a 1050ti for transcoding on UnRaid. It rolls Plex and several other Dockers doesn't break a sweat, with the drives spun down docker runs on the NVME so keeps it all ticking, idle at less than 100w, drives auto spin down after 15mins.

So for comparison, that 100w figure is 876kW a year or £297.84 just at idle based on October's 34p/kWH and your road number of 100w. My NUC8i3/32GB/1TB NVMe sits around 10w average 24/7 (it dips to around 5-6w idle, but under load is generally sits around 11-12w, I could probably shave 1-2w of that with tweaks and altering the default power management in Ubuntu). Admittedly my local storage is NVMe for local cache and remote for everything else, and that costs me £13.77/m for unlimited storage (£165.24/yr), that puts me at £195.03/yr with no additional storage purchases required. That's £102.81 saving per year just using your idle and my load values, obviously if you do anything and spin those drives up, the saving gets even bigger.

No right or wrong answer, for all I know you get free power via solar or don't pay the bills/care, but with power costs where they are, it's something to think about.
 
I run an old Xeon E3-1260l with 32Gb of ddr3, have card and 10 HDD's l, 1 NVME and a SATA SSD for cache and a 1050ti for transcoding on UnRaid. It rolls Plex and several other Dockers doesn't break a sweat, with the drives spun down docker runs on the NVME so keeps it all ticking, idle at less than 100w, drives auto spin down after 15mins.

How do you find the 1050Ti? I'm jus tin the market myself to stick a card in for transcodes, looking at a 1050 (non Ti) or a 1650...
 
1050 must be a ti for the cuda cores, the lower ones don't have them. It's fine, I leave Tdarr running 24/7 any new added files get automatically converted to h265 and sonarr/radarr libraries auto update.
 
1050 must be a ti for the cuda cores, the lower ones don't have them. It's fine, I leave Tdarr running 24/7 any new added files get automatically converted to h265 and sonarr/radarr libraries auto update.

1050 2GB has 640 CUDA cores, 1050Ti has 768 (Rare 3GB 1050 also has 768).

The actual issue for transcoding is whether NVENC is supported or not - both 1050 and 1050Ti have an NVENC chip (whereas the cheaper lower power 1030 does not) and support everything encoding wise with the exception of "HEVC B Frame support" and "AV1".

 
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