what watercooling do i need ?

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Right i was going to buy new fans and a new good air cooled cpu cooler for my pc, but i thought screw it i might as well go for water cooling. but i have no idea what im doing, and i dont know what i need. i have a budget about £300- 350. but thats pushing it, if i can get a watercooling it for £200 that would great. but looing at the prices i dont think i can get one for that price. So if someone can sugest some good water cooling equipment it would be a real help.

pc spec :
amd phenom 2 x4 955 be;
ati hd 5850;
silverstone strder st75f 750w;
Asus M4A79XTD Evo ;
antec 902 case.
 
You can easily cool just the Cpu for that money comfortably if not for less, where it starts getting really expensive is when u start cooling gfx and mobo too.
 
i wanted to cool the cpu and the gfx card cus that slows right down if i have been playing games all day. so is it possable for £350?, i could wait a couple of weeks and save my pennys and get a buget £500. but that seems a lot of money for a pc that isnt that great i still dont have clue on what i need . i have been reading on the net on how to build one . but nothing givin a exact list of that i would need. if this was your pc and you was going too watercool it, what would you do ? just so i get a idea of what i would need.
 
Firstly - Air cooling is better than water in most day to day applications.
This is may many members here that have used water for years are swapping back to air.

WHY do you want to spend £200-400 on something you most likely don't need (please correct me if I'm wrong)

There are only three reasons to watercooling imho
1) ultra quiet opperation of very high end hardware or inadable high spec pc
This involves more that just the loop - all hardware need tweeking (OS on SSD etc)
and you need a new case. The 902 is not suitable for a quiet pc.
2) higher oc / benchmarking - very noisey but extreme speeds/volts
3) Bling / peer pressure.

All three options have there own 'best' setup for rads/fans/blocks/pumps/res/fittings/tube/coolant.

Most people reasons are a mixture of the above, but one should be dominant or it just a waste of money
and aircooling is cheaper/easier/and less of a drag to upgrade/manage.

Edit: to be more helpful - I'm guessing your a gamer - case and gpu, point me in that direction.
There is some merrit in watercooling just your gpu, with a simple loop
A universal block or full cover block and some QC would work well (depends one your gpu upgrade timescale)

But an aftermarket gpu cooler from Artic cooling or thermalright would be better.
And your cpu will never be 100% in games for a least a year or more yet.
so would be pointless watercooling that.
 
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i see were you are coming from shadowscotland. the main reason i want water cooling is cus i like experementing and just playin around with it and the bling, and then i can start overclocking it aswell. so im not looking for extreme water cooling. just something too do. so i was thinkin of gettin a Obsidian 800D case aswell so i can fit everything in. cus the antec 902 case is just too small.
 
If you add in the cost of an 800D that a very expensive upgrade that acheives very little.
It's your money, and there are plenty of people here that will help you spend it.

I surgest you get involved with the forum community here - firstly to learn more about options to cool a pc and secondly to get access to the members market.
It's a place to buy and sell computer stuff and will save you 30-40% on a water loop.

If you intrested in going down the quiet route I'm always around to help - not into the benching/bling side
 
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I have absolutely no experience of after market gpu air coolers but I would say that if you are going to water cool your gpu for extra clocks/silence then you may as well do the cpu as well. Reason being you will have a very bulky cpu cooler to get in the way of the water tubes and thus potentially making it difficult to get a nicely routed loop. Its ok the other way round, i.e. cpu water cooled and gpu air cooled, cos the gpu air cooler normally takes up the same space as a water cooled gpu, and is easier to get looking ok. Personally I would be put off by the looks of a dirty great cpu cooler mixed in with a water cooled gcard, it would just look wrong imo.

By the sounds of your reasons for wanting to try water cooing, I would go exculsively second hand and just do the cpu. This will give you the practice and chance to experiment. Keep the 902 case until you feel you want to expand the water cooling side. If you got the 800D and decided water cooling wasn't for you then you would likely have to mod the 800D because it is not actually the best case for air cooling due to limited options for getting cold air into the case.
 
hmm a lot too think about. i wont rush into anything yet. and i will have a look around the forums, and find out more info about watercooling for a couple of weeks.

i still dont understand the differance between the differant types of reservoirs.

i was going too bling up my watercooling but now have had a change of heart, and a lot of it is too crazy for me. i just want it too run smoothly and run nice and quiet. and then i wont be running all my fans on max for a change.

is it worth buying a watercooling kit for my first watercooling experement or just just buy single parts ?
 
A second hand kit maybe - but not a new one.
cherry picking the best bits is always better - but again the 'why' should guide what you get.

Reservoirs only really come in three types.

Directly attached to a pump (DDC Res tops/typhoon3)
Easy, neat and gives boost to pumps stats - highly recomended
can be a pain to bleed with powerfull pumps.

Submerged (pump in res - xspc / zalman do this)
in theory quiet (but not always) easy and neat - limited options

Inline/compensating (swiftech micro/ek multi/bay res)
looks good, best option for bleeding loop, can acheive T-line performance
- multi-optional, usually overfilled with 'standard' connection option adopted

Or use a T-line and you don't need a res at all (not recomended for beginers)
creates a sealed loop (no air bubble) - pita to fill / bleed
 
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