What would you do? Advice needed

Soldato
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Ok this is quite a long story regarding a car i took in p/x and it'd be a very long read so i've thought up below a way to explain it quickly.

* Got a hpi check that came up completely clear on all fronts
* Car i received had finance on it from a previous owner(the owner before the one i bought it off)
* The person i bought it off vanished off face of the earth, looked increasingly like a set up.
* I had it hpi checked but w/o the vin number which i learnt afterwards only a few hpi check places (based in scotland) need, most can pick up everything off the number plate.
* Finance company sent someone round to "collect the vehicle"
* I provided HPI check
* I have no protection from the hpi check place because i didn't note down the vin number.
* Situation is now, after 2 yrs they no longer have any intention of getting it off me as they arent sure enough of winning the case, and i'm not sure enough of getting it off them because i didn't note down the VIN number and its illegal (checked with solicitor) for me to sell it on and they'd just go after the next owner and maybe have more luck so they're leaving it on their records.

I'm not a t*** and i've no intention of shipping it on to an unsuspecting person, but what can be done? Its a good little car (mg zr+) for me but its on the small side as i'm very tall. What would people here do?

I see my options being.

1) try to negotiate something with the finance company which is obviously quite risky and i'd have no idea how to go about it.

2) Break the car for parts but no idea how viable this would be and i have no proper mechanical knowledge and it'd surely be a nightmare getting rid of all the parts to gain a reasonable sum of money towards another car and effectively cut my losses knowing they'll never come back to me for it now. How much would i realistically be looking at getting back if i'd have to get/pay someone to remove the parts? probably nothing as the parts won't be worth enough being an mg?

Apparently they'd have some hold over it even if it got into an accident and would then try to get the insurance payout off me.

The car is fine but i'm thinking longterm, i'd hate to hand it back to them for free at any point on princple. What would people here do / suggest?

I'd be really grateful for any help as i'm pretty stuck on this one.
 
Sorry was late last night..no idea why i explained the life story :p Fact is i don't need legal advice because the situation is the finance company will never collect it and i'm not allowed to sell it because as soon as its registered in another persons name it'll all kick off again and they'll be back on the case. This isn't a legal forum and i know the situation already regarding that.

My question for the motors forum really was, how much could i get for a 51 plate mg zr+ 1.8 120 with 31k as parts and given i don't have the knowledge to break it myself, would it even be a worthwhile thing to consider?
 
Did you pay the previous owner in cash? If not, go to the police as you'll have his bank account details (where-ever the cheque was cashed).

This chap has de-frauded you, so it is a police matter :)
 
I did a p/x with a little cash, this was now over 2 years ago and in a way its turned out for the best as its been a good lil car but i'm just wondering what my options are down the line as, eventually i will get a new car (even if its a few yrs off yet once ive got plenty of use out of this) and when the time comes, i'd rather do anything other than just hand what i consider to be "my" car away.

However, if when that time comes theres some way i can get some money back without triggering anything off with this finance company then i'll be obviously very happy as "every little helps!!" as they say at tescos :D
 
Bug One said:
So by buying the car, you now owe a finance company money?

Nah not with me, the finance is attached to the car. Its a really messy business. They arent trying to claim any money off me as they can't do that but initially they were trying to take "my" car away but i argued (with a hpi check coming up clear) that i couldn't have known and did everything i could and its been totally left at that. My issue now is totally about potentially breaking it for parts in the future or any other bright ideas anyone might have :)
 
Ex-RoNiN said:
How would the finance company know its been sold on? Do the DVLA tell them when the car has been re-registered?

Yea they must do, they were so quickly on my case. Maybe 2-3 days after i was the registered owner of the vehicle.
 
bobert50 said:

It's hardly worth much more if its unsellable becuase the moment you register it in your name the finance company unleashes a world of hassle on you - its only worth about 3k if it was mint!
 
Bug One said:
So by buying the car, you now owe a finance company money?

It sounds odd. But they way it works is if there is uncleared finance on the car it still belongs to the finance company. Net result is that the car didn't belong to the previous owner (it wasn't his car to sell) and doesn't legaly belong to the OP.

Good luck getting this sorted.
 
[TW]Fox said:
It's hardly worth much more if its unsellable becuase the moment you register it in your name the finance company unleashes a world of hassle on you - its only worth about 3k if it was mint!

The :rolleyes: was simply because i'd already stated for legal reasons it couldn't be sold as a whole as they'd try and get me locked up :p , thats why i was wondering about breaking it for parts eventually when the time comes (not yet, i need it for at least a year yet). At the moment it suits me absolutely great as its extremely cheap to run, its extremely fun to drive with all its quirks and its giving me the opportunity to save up for a more luxurious car in the meantime.

Anyone know what sort of money you'd have to pay someone to completely break your car? not with a sledgehammer..i mean into different bits to sell on :D
 
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