What would you do...

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Here's the situation, currently living in a house owned 50/50 between my missus dad and his partner, they rent it out to us at significantly reduced cost.

They're now splitting up and just to be a ***** she's now wanting to stick the rent up to a level we can't afford. My missus dad is going to move in to our spare room for a while and pay the difference though i simply CANNOT live with him for more than a couple of weeks (I know some might say just stick it out, but that's not me, I'm a very private person, i like my personal space) on top of that her dad can't afford anything more than a house share so that's what he's looking for once he's lived with us for a while.

Our first thought was "look for another house" but rental around here is stupidly expensive and there simply aren't any up for rent that we like and it's unlikely there will be for some time. Now on top of this we own a 1 bedroom flat in the middle of town, to which we make a loss on every month because we simply can't do anything with it (negative equity :() and living in it seems highly unlikely with me, missus and our 2 year old son.

That being said, I've done the figures and it works out we could save £1000 per month if we did try and live in it for a while.....1 year and that's a deposit on a house!

I seem to have a few options...
1) Stick it out with missus dad, continue to live here in a lovely big house and save next to nothing every month but have all the space we need
2) find a smaller house, be in debt for a few months as we don't have money for a deposit even for renting so the deposit would have to go into an overdraft, but eventually save a bit of money that way. Space could be a bit 50/50 here.
3) Attempt to live in the 1 bed flat for 6 months at least, save up a nice wad of cash, sell the flat (thus removing the loss every month which i should mention is in the region of £190pm!) and buy a house. No space for parking, garden, room for little un to run around.

The financial option of number 3 sounds so so good but could put a lot of strain on a relationship having no space, especially over Christmas time when it's so cold out that going out or taking little un out regularly becomes less desirable.

I should mention, moving would mean the 7th time we've moved in 7 years, and the 5th house my 2 year old son would have lived in, which is another reason to keep looking at option 3 because to have somewhere to call our own we could finally settle would be fantastic.

I don't know why I'm posting this here, been feeling a bit depressed about the whole thing today and need some advice i suppose...I probably haven't explained the situation that well really.

tl;dr: Sick of moving house, hate living with people i don't want to live with, do 2 adults and a child attempt to live in a 1 bed flat for 6-9 months? First world problems and all that....
 
Here's the situation, currently living in a house owned 50/50 between my missus dad and his partner, they rent it out to us at significantly reduced cost.

They're now splitting up and just to be a ***** she's now wanting to stick the rent up to a level we can't afford. My missus dad is going to move in to our spare room for a while and pay the difference though i simply CANNOT live with him for more than a couple of weeks (I know some might say just stick it out, but that's not me, I'm a very private person, i like my personal space) on top of that her dad can't afford anything more than a house share so that's what he's looking for once he's lived with us for a while.

Our first thought was "look for another house" but rental around here is stupidly expensive and there simply aren't any up for rent that we like and it's unlikely there will be for some time. Now on top of this we own a 1 bedroom flat in the middle of town, to which we make a loss on every month because we simply can't do anything with it (negative equity :() and living in it seems highly unlikely with me, missus and our 2 year old son.

That being said, I've done the figures and it works out we could save £1000 per month if we did try and live in it for a while.....1 year and that's a deposit on a house!

I seem to have a few options...
1) Stick it out with missus dad, continue to live here in a lovely big house and save next to nothing every month but have all the space we need
2) find a smaller house, be in debt for a few months as we don't have money for a deposit even for renting so the deposit would have to go into an overdraft, but eventually save a bit of money that way. Space could be a bit 50/50 here.
3) Attempt to live in the 1 bed flat for 6 months at least, save up a nice wad of cash, sell the flat (thus removing the loss every month which i should mention is in the region of £190pm!) and buy a house. No space for parking, garden, room for little un to run around.

The financial option of number 3 sounds so so good but could put a lot of strain on a relationship having no space, especially over Christmas time when it's so cold out that going out or taking little un out regularly becomes less desirable.

I should mention, moving would mean the 7th time we've moved in 7 years, and the 5th house my 2 year old son would have lived in, which is another reason to keep looking at option 3 because to have somewhere to call our own we could finally settle would be fantastic.

I don't know why I'm posting this here, been feeling a bit depressed about the whole thing today and need some advice i suppose...I probably haven't explained the situation that well really.

tl;dr: Sick of moving house, hate living with people i don't want to live with, do 2 adults and a child attempt to live in a 1 bed flat for 6-9 months? First world problems and all that....
Ouch, sounds like a bit of a pickle, mate.

If it were me I'd be tempted with option 3 and ask any mates or family if they have a place you could store any furniture or goods you won't have room more in the flat.

At least you will have a base with total control over and in the end give you more choice for your family, in the long run.
 
Is it really a loss? You are 'losing' £190 per month, but are increasing your net worth by about the total mortgage payment each month.

Well I'm subsidizing the guy living there now by about £150pm plus the £42pm I have going into an ISA to pay off the yearly building management fee.

With it being in negative equity haven't i essentially gained nothing? It's probably pretty near to equal equity but either way i feel like every penny going into it is being lost, obviously if I've got the wrong idea on how it works then feel free to say so but that's how i assumed it all worked.

EDIT: I should add, had i not been making that loss of nearly £200 every month for the entire period I've been letting it out, had that £200 been going into savings....I'd have over £5k saved up now. :(

Ouch, sounds like a bit of a pickle, mate.

If it were me I'd be tempted with option 3 and ask any mates or family if they have a place you could store any furniture or goods you won't have room more in the flat.

At least you will have a base you have total control over and in the end give you more choice for your family, in the long run.

Luckily i think a local self storage place wasn't too expensive, though it would be ideal if i could store everything with friends, sadly i don't think anyone has enough space :(
 
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Number 3 for me really ... a little sacrifice now seems like it will go a long way.

And you need to get rid of that loss property.
 
Luckily i think a local self storage place wasn't too expensive, though it would be ideal if i could store everything with friends, sadly i don't think anyone has enough space :(
Honestly I think it will be a little tight but I don't think it will be too bad. Me and the missus moved into a much smaller place a 1 bedroom flat infact. We have got a bit of stuff in storage, but you sort of learn to maximise space and it's pretty cosy.

So long as you all have somewhere to sleep i'm sure it will be okay. :)
 
Can anyone enlighten me a bit regarding mortgages, I'm trying to work out what sort of amount I'd be looking to save in order to sell my flat, for arguments sake lets say the flat is on equal equity and i sell it for no loss or profit and i want to move to a house worth £140,000 to £150,000 what sort of amount should i be looking to save? Is 10% pretty much a minimum these days?
 
I'd go for option 3 to be honest - yeah it's going to be a pain in the short term, but long term far better. (and what's a year really in the grand scheme of things?)

You said you're concerned about the space over Christmas - well, how about stick it out in the rented house until January and move back to your flat then?
 
So hold on a second... You currently live in a house, and have a 1 bedroom flat which you own, and you are worrying about having somewhere to live?

Get a grip mate. Some people dont even have the luxury of a roof over their heads, let alone 2.
 
Can anyone enlighten me a bit regarding mortgages, I'm trying to work out what sort of amount I'd be looking to save in order to sell my flat, for arguments sake lets say the flat is on equal equity and i sell it for no loss or profit and i want to move to a house worth £140,000 to £150,000 what sort of amount should i be looking to save? Is 10% pretty much a minimum these days?

There are some 5% deals coming back on the market but you will be paying a horrible rate 6% ish

10% isn't much better but you at least be able to get a decent fix rate below 5%

For the best rates you still need 20%+

Also don't forget the 1.5k stamp duty solicitors costs moving costs etc you would probably want closer to 15% saved
 
The couple of the block next to us live in a 1 bed flat with 2 children, it's not ideal but it can be done.
 
6-9 months will absolutely fly by and you'll find yourself in a much better position financially and will be able to seriously start thinking about a more permanent base for your family.

Option 3 is a no-brainer for me. Every other option is just a stall in your life and will leave you in the same position as you are now.. only 6-9 months down the line.
 
I'd go with option 3 a year is nothing considering you could then own your own home and not have to worry about all this ever again.
 
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