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What’s a reasonable upgrade?

MoNkeE

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Morning you big bunch of beautiful nerds.

Im currently rolling with:
Intel i5 10700 (non-K volt modded to K speeds)
MSI Tomahawk B460
16gb DDR4 3200 (only running at 3000 due to board)

I’ve been toying with the idea of upgrading but I’ve been out of the upgrade game for a while and wouldn’t really know where to go from here.

What’re my choices for both a new build (only looking to change CPU/mobo/RAM) or going rates for the second hand market?

I’m not particularly wedded to Intel, and running 1440p on a GTX3080 Ti.

Thanks!
 
10700 is still pretty capable (decent number of cores/threads, and single core performance is still fairly strong) - unless you've a specific need I can't see much point in an upgrade.

Personally I'd hold off a bit longer, and see what the next round of Intel and AMD chips bring, coupled with the ever maturing DDR5 speeds, would make a better long term option.


If you absolutely must though:
Intel 13xxx/14xxx chips are a dead end upgrade as whatever comes next will be a new socket, but you could get a DDR4 board and keep your current RAM (although you'd probably want 32Gb anyway?)

AM5 would be a better choice, move to DDR5 and a 7xxx chip now, and there will be an option for at least another generation of chip (if not more) as an upgrade. Downside is that DDR5 is still getting faster, so you'll likely want to swap it out for the next generation chip for better performance anyway.
 
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Thanks for the advice guys, probably makes sense just to keep mine as is for now then, and try and find a cheap incremental upgrade for the daughters 4th gen i5. The 8th gen bundles don’t seem to be too dear, and have the hyper threading included……
 
MoNkeE said:
and try and find a cheap incremental upgrade for the daughters 4th gen i5. The 8th gen bundles don’t seem to be too dear, and have the hyper threading included……
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It depends on the used price obviously, but for a cheap upgrade H610 and 12100F or A520/B550 and 5600 are hard to beat.
 
I’ve never really considered any of the 10th or 12th gen i3s or i5s as new purchases. What are the F chips like, are they gimped like the non-K in terms of only able to turbo for x amount of time before returning to base clock speed?

I know this may seem somewhat obvious, but would a 12th gen i3 be a good upgrade from a 4th gen i5? Effectively same cores but more threads, but considerably newer tech.
 
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MoNkeE said:
What are the F chips like, are they gimped like the non-K in terms of only able to turbo for x amount of time before returning to base clock speed?
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The F CPUs are fine, they just lack the IGP. They will turbo forever.

MoNkeE said:
I know this may seem somewhat obvious, but would a 12th gen i3 be a good upgrade from a 4th gen i5? Effectively same cores but more threads, but considerably newer tech.
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It depends on the game, but the i3-12100 performs around a 10600K/9900 non-K.
 
depending on what the system is used for the cheapest upgrade would be a 4th gen i7
my young lad started to pay much more demanding games and his i5 6500 started to struggle, i dropped an i7 6700 in and everything is sweet.

if she needs more for the cost of an 10400f you can get a Ryzen 5600, the ryzen is better.
I just decided to upgrade the boys system i got 16gb of ram, B550 motherboard and R5 5600 for under £150
 
sorry to hijack thread, but in same boat ish, i have a 10400 and seeing high usage percentages while gaming, would a 11700k help me as dont want to buy yet as waiting to see what 24 brings. rather than forking out out on AM5 or lga 1700
 
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Wing-Man said:
Yes 11700 or even a 10700
If your motherboard doesn’t support pcie4 then the 10700 or 10900 could be had cheaper than a 11700

When you say high usage, how high and what games a 12 thread cpu is generally ok for games.
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i have a pcie 4 board, but only pcie because of the 10400, starfield is 99% gpu cpu is over 80% at times

oh and have 2 nmve one pcie and 1x4, so of cockeyed :cry:
 
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MCFC_ANDY said:
starfield is 99% gpu cpu is over 80% at times
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thats good not bad... GPU should be at 100% thats means it working and getting the info it needs from the CPU.
personally my usage is lower i have a 10400f in a systems and see around 70% on the CPU in the same game

the 11700 or 11900 would be better, but only with games that will use more threads
with games and CPU's its not just plug and play better some times you need a faster CPU so a 10600k overclocked in some cases would be better then a 11700f


EDIT: but yes get the 11700(K if you can) its faster even if you dont OC
 
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