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What's happening in a Month? (anandtech article)

Has ATI got a 4850 replacement coming? They have just launched the 4890 so maybe something with a bit less power and then they drop the price of the 4850/4870?
 
Aye 4750 I think it is, is meant to be coming. $99 and about the same speed, or marginally slower (probably worse at AA due to 128bit memory bus) than the 4850 by the early looks :)
 
Alexrose1uk said:
Aye 4750 I think it is, is meant to be coming. $99 and about the same speed, or marginally slower (probably worse at AA due to 128bit memory bus) than the 4850 by the early looks :)
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can't imagine it being worth it, unless performance is incredibly close to 4850, I'd rather pay the extra £15 and get the 4850
 
We are talking $ here, so that would mean £70-£80 quid, kinda like 4830 prices now. Maybe the 8530 will get replaced. Be good to have a cooler card that doesnt need external power with the performance of a 85xx card.
 
40nm, 750mhz core, smaller bus but gddr5 to increase bandwidth to similar numbers to the 256mbit ddr3 bandwidth of the 4850. Infact the preview cards were shown at 650mhz and were VERY close to the 4850, in almost all games you wouldn't be able to tell which card you had in the system. With the bump to 750mhz, the 40nm production and pci-e power connector (only uses 80w but the connector leave a lot of headroom) it "might" overclock an insane amount. It also might not overclock well at all as the 40nm process is supposed to be crap and leaky, we'll have to say. ITs looking set to be a very very good budget card though.
 
Alexrose1uk said:
Thats the thing, it IS meant to be roughly the same speed as the 4850; but cheaper.
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Yeah, in Guru3D's preview of the card it was scoring very closely to a 4850, inbetween the 4830 and the 4850 (which are fairly close as it is) - only the card was running at 650MHz, the card is launching at 750MHz.
 
anant_shah94 said:
can't imagine it being worth it, unless performance is incredibly close to 4850, I'd rather pay the extra £15 and get the 4850
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$99, not £99 so about £77 with VAT making it an absolute bargain mid range card, similar performance to the 4830/4850 with a lower power consumption. Perfect for people running 1680x1050 or lower.
 
ghost101 said:
rv740 isn't it?
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Aye that it is.

Also, fun theoretical performance extrapolations time:

Code: 
various scores:

RV740@650	4850
51		55
43		48
40		43
47		53
17		19


198		218

RV740@650% of 4850 performance = (198/218*100)% = 90%
4770 est. % of 4850 performance = 90%*1.155 = 104%

Just sit back and watch this have no bearing on reality what so ever (probably because I can't remember how to do percentages!)! But it's fun to speculate.
 
Raikiri said:
$99, not £99 so about £77 with VAT making it an absolute bargain mid range card, similar performance to the 4830/4850 with a lower power consumption. Perfect for people running 1680x1050 or lower.
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I'm still in dispute about the price for the 4770... It sounds like an awesome card.

Most here say £100 but current performance/price ratio would value the card on today's market at say £120.

So coming in at £100 and even less would make it a real bargain. Not sure why ATI is doing this... What's Nvidia planning ?

Either way it looks like a bargain - only thing to look out for is possibly the 128bit bus. Maybe this is the reason for the high clock :confused:

Anyway I'm looking forward to it :D
 
Subliminal Aura said:
Either way it looks like a bargain - only thing to look out for is possibly the 128bit bus. Maybe this is the reason for the high clock :confused:
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Ah, but it's being coupled with GDDR5 memory which, being twice as fast as GDDR3, should pretty much totally offset the small memory bus (in respect to the 4850).
 
Subliminal Aura said:
More the reason to be looking forward to it :D

Anyone know what Nvidia's response will be ?
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I assume, to cry, a lot :p

They need a new core to compete, flat out, they can't make something based off such a massive die, cut bits off and sell it at £80 and make any profit. THey are supposedly eating money selling the 260 at £160, and essentially they'd have to eat a further £80 and fuse bits of the core. They need a redone core basically which I'm sure they are working on. We'll have to see though, if they were only planning a huge monolithic die like the 8800/280 cards for the next gen on 40nm then they might have been utterly screwed by TSMC screw up with the process(as that huge die on a low yield leaky process simply won't work). AMD's already small die design worked fine on it so they got rather lucky they could make this die so cheap, and make it work on the leaky process. So its possible Nvidia don't have anything that will scale down well enough to be made on the process yet.

Not sure where it leaves the 4830/50/70 either, the 30/50 will be pointless buys as they might well perform worse and cost more. I assume they'll stop making the 4850 ,simply sell them all as 4870's, then the few that don't work sell them as 4830's at a very cheap price rather than throw the cores out. I think IF nvidia get the 275 out in large quantity(which is not in any way certain) it could easily leave room for AMD to put drop the 4890 to around £180-190 inc vat, the 4870 to £130-160 range with 512/1gb versions at the high low end, and the 4770 around £80-110 mark with the higher end being 1gb and overclocked versions.

Trouble for Nvidia is ATi are making decent profit at every price point and their partners all love them, and Nvidia can only compete on price/profit with the 260, which they eat money on and partners hate Nvidia for.
 
They don't really need to do much anyway other than cut the price of the GTS250/9800GTX+ slightly, both of which should be offering comprable performance.
 
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