Whats the Intel Equivalent of this AMD Athlon

Conrad11 · 3 Oct 2006 at 12:10

Hi there,

What would be the intel equivelant of a AMD Athlon 3200+ Barton?

Thanks.

snowdog · 3 Oct 2006 at 12:20

p4 3.2 ghz northwood.

mrthingyx · 3 Oct 2006 at 15:53

The equivalent in terms of actual performance would be the 2.8GHz Northwood (HT-enabled). The 3.2GHz one battered the Athlon XP3200+ in ways that weren't pretty.

Boogle · 4 Oct 2006 at 20:32

mrthingyx said:
The equivalent in terms of actual performance would be the 2.8GHz Northwood (HT-enabled). The 3.2GHz one battered the Athlon XP3200+ in ways that weren't pretty.

Those Northwoods were good CPUs

Pity the Prescott gave the Netburst architecture a bad name. There's actually an Xeon MP out now with great performance (faster than the equivilent CPUs), and pretty good value with no excessive heat. Its the last Netburst CPU. Too little, too late I guess.

Roll · 5 Oct 2006 at 13:04

Depends what it was being used for really.

The P4 3.2Ghz (or maybe even the 2.8Ghz) assuming we're talking about socket 478 would be quite a bit better at things such as video encoding due to its higher FSB, but for games my guess would be that the 3200+ Barton might well be the better CPU.

mrthingyx · 5 Oct 2006 at 14:17

Roll said:
Depends what it was being used for really.

The P4 3.2Ghz (or maybe even the 2.8Ghz) assuming we're talking about socket 478 would be quite a bit better at things such as video encoding due to its higher FSB, but for games my guess would be that the 3200+ Barton might well be the better CPU.

Sadly not the case.

It was all over for the Athlon XP when Intel pushed clockspeeds beyond 3GHz (first, with the 3.06GHz and subsequently with the 800MHz FSB models). Previously, it had held the edge with games, but not past this point.

wizardmaxx · 5 Oct 2006 at 14:18

Conrad11 said:
Hi there,

What would be the intel equivelant of a AMD Athlon 3200+ Barton?

Thanks.

Why do you want to know anyway?

Gashman · 5 Oct 2006 at 16:06

look at cedar mill/presler as well, best revision of the prescott core, insane clock speed potential and lower overall heat generation to prescott/smithfield, last ditch effort to make netburst great, but it was too late by then, since K8 was so much more efficient at virtually everything for lower power, lower heat, lower clock speeds, K8 killed netburst

jezsoup · 6 Oct 2006 at 09:40

mrthingyx said:
The equivalent in terms of actual performance would be the 2.8GHz Northwood (HT-enabled). The 3.2GHz one battered the Athlon XP3200+ in ways that weren't pretty.

w00t for my 3.4 Nortwood clocked to 3.9

Reality|Bites · 6 Oct 2006 at 17:51

Looks like the Intel brainwashing is working

stigggeh · 6 Oct 2006 at 17:58

Reality|Bites said:
Looks like the Intel brainwashing is working

care to explain ?

edit: thought i had better explain.... a 2.8 northwood/875p setup beats a 3200+ barton/NF2u setup in the majority of benchmarks HERE ... quite a few of which are by a decent margin.

looks like the OCUK AMD appreciation society is out defending AMD again

i have had both a northwood/875p & XP-m/nf2u setups so i think i can comment

Northwood wins

Big.Wayne · 6 Oct 2006 at 18:59

lol bit of a P4 Northwood vibe going on here

Got mine back in action while I rebuild my Opteron system. The m0 were great steppings, the above overclock is using stock vCore and a cheap thermalright cooler.

before this P4 I had a Barton XP2500+ clocked to XP3200+ and while being plenty fast it couldn't compete with the Northwood running on an INTEL i865PE chipset. The nForce2 was (and still is) a great platform but nVidia *Dual* channel memory implentation was a joke! I think I was getting about 1500MB/s memory bandwidth on the nForce system and 3000MB/s on the INTEL system. . .

stigggeh · 6 Oct 2006 at 19:09

lol.. yeah i loved mine it was fast for a good year, something we rearly see now. i remember being uber geek on irc (with no name script) showing 2x cpus 3ghz+ and people going WOOOW ahhh those where the days.

i always wanted an M0 but ended up getting a cherry D1 stepping.

ran at 1.58v at 3.6ghz stable on air (sp94+ystech)... now enjoying an easy retirement in the gf's shuttle stock

i also had an NF2u + XP-m @ 2500mhz and it wasnt as fast as the northwood imo

Big.Wayne · 6 Oct 2006 at 19:31

stigggeh said:
i always wanted an M0 but ended up getting a cherry D1 stepping.

i also had an NF2u + XP-m @ 2500mhz and it wasnt as fast as the northwood imo

looks like a nice d1 there. My m0 was clocked at 3.5Ghz (stock vCore) for a year but since I rebuilt it the max I can get dual-prime stable is 3.45Ghz. I suspect that its due to temps using the thermalright SLK800u (£10.00) getting toasty 60°C under full load lol

(used to be 43°C using the SP-94 + YS-Tech), either that or it was never stable at 3.5GHz as I didn'ty use to dual-prime my cpus lol

I think the XP family of ATHLON CPu's were great and could compete with P4's quite well in pure CPU tasks, but once you tested anything that benefited from memory bandwidth the P4 just took off!

Duke · 6 Oct 2006 at 19:51

As above, the P4 Northwood HT 3.0-3.2GHz would be the equivalent.

stigggeh · 6 Oct 2006 at 19:51

Big.Wayne said:
looks like a nice d1 there. My m0 was clocked at 3.5Ghz (stock vCore) for a year but since I rebuilt it the max I can get dual-prime stable is 3.45Ghz. I suspect that its due to temps using the thermalright SLK800u (£10.00) getting toasty 60°C under full load lol (used to be 43°C using the SP-94 + YS-Tech), either that or it was never stable at 3.5GHz as I didn'ty use to dual-prime my cpus lol

I think the XP family of ATHLON CPu's were great and could compete with P4's quite well in pure CPU tasks, but once you tested anything that benefited from memory bandwidth the P4 just took off!

i agree i remember early XP's murdering early P4's, but i think the turning point was 800fsb & HT which started to give the northwoods the edge. This was especially the case in encoding (much to do with its design using longer pipelines, ht and high clocks iirc), well that was my experience anyway.

Big.Wayne · 6 Oct 2006 at 20:02

stigggeh said:
i agree i remember early XP's murdering early P4's, but i think the turning point was 800fsb & HT which started to give the northwoods the edge. This was especially the case in encoding (much to do with its design using longer pipelines, ht and high clocks iirc), well that was my experience anyway.

Yeah, I believe thats because encoding was *one* of those apps that thrived on memory bandwidth. . .

Also remember 3DMark01 and Aquamark (Radeon 9800Pro) getting a lot higher scores when comparing an XP3200+ to a P4 Northwood at stock (2.8Ghz), once the P4 was overclocked as well it was obviously the faster CPU.

I know three people who are sitting at their computers right now happily doing normal stuff and their using XP2400+'s and an XP2500+ all with Radeon 9600Pros, the tech might be outdated but still totally useable outside benchmarks. . .

Boogle · 6 Oct 2006 at 21:34

stigggeh said:
i agree i remember early XP's murdering early P4's, but i think the turning point was 800fsb & HT which started to give the northwoods the edge. This was especially the case in encoding (much to do with its design using longer pipelines, ht and high clocks iirc), well that was my experience anyway.

Early Williamette P4s, ugh. Almost as bad as the Prescott core for underperforming. They even released them at 1.4Ghz at which point a CPU half the price could absolutely murder it

MoD_Callidus · 6 Oct 2006 at 22:11

Big.Wayne said:
I know three people who are sitting at their computers right now happily doing normal stuff and their using XP2400+'s and an XP2500+ all with Radeon 9600Pros, the tech might be outdated but still totally useable outside benchmarks. . .

lol my sys = XP2700+ with a 5700 Ultra.................

I'll get my coat.

mrthingyx · 6 Oct 2006 at 22:35

MoD_Callidus said:
lol my sys = XP2700+ with a 5700 Ultra.................

I'll get my coat.

DLT3C XP1700 (hard-modded @200x10) with a 9800Pro, here! On a KT400A chipset!