A gtx1070 is just over £400, where you getting a case, motherboard, ram, storage, controller and keeping price parity with the one x?
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A gtx1070 is just over £400, where you getting a case, motherboard, ram, storage, controller and keeping price parity with the one x?
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eh?
1) I was responding to someone implying Xbox One X will come close to (or even outperform) the 1070.
2) Why would you seek to keep price parity between two things which are of different levels of quality?
Fact of the matter is, an RX480 was £220 a year ago. Chances are, it'll marginally outperform the Xbox One X due to higher clocks and being paired with a better CPU.
If it weren't for the cryptocurrency thing going on right now, you'd likely be able to get one for <£200.
bought my mates for £250 few weeks back when he upgraded to a stunning LG OLED
lovely TV the Sammy, it really is.
Now thats a bargin!
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For casual 4K gaming and UHD BluRay playback the Xbox X in a steal. Much better option then ponying up with PC gaming trying to keep at 4K. Not even a GTX 1080 Ti can do that without sacrifice to visual quality. In a few years when prices come down and Nvidia stop bleeding us on die shrinks, PC will be worth a look again. Right now though PC pricing at the high end is ludicrous.
Too true. :/
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Oh yes, there were a few other reasons why he offered it so cheap, best mate helping around his house etc, impossible to turn down a 55" 4k hdr tv for that. It's not OLED but same for that money who cares. Will see me through the next year or two whilst I save for my own future gen OLED, they'll only get better.
And i echo what others have said, yes gaming on my pc at 1440p 144hz freesync feels amazing, but visually the look of ps4pro with HDR is wicked, its so pretty to look at.
The Xbox one X isn't a bad choice to be honest and you could easily put £500 into your PC and run at a similar settings and resolution, its up to you.
Even an Rx 480 and i5 based system would likely outperform it.
6 Tflops is a pittance when trying to run 4k correctly. Its already been confirmed a lot of AAA games. Shadow of war, Destiny 2, metro, assassin's creed. Will run at 4k/30fps. Which in my opinion is just a mess, even with the quality of 4k.
In my honest opinion. I'd say wait until the Xbox one X comes out and see what you can get. VEGA will be out with lower powered variants which could prove a very nice upgrade for less than the console will cost.
Even an Rx 480 and i5 based system would likely outperform it.
6 Tflops is a pittance when trying to run 4k correctly. Its already been confirmed a lot of AAA games. Shadow of war, Destiny 2, metro, assassin's creed. Will run at 4k/30fps. Which in my opinion is just a mess, even with the quality of 4k.
In my honest opinion. I'd say wait until the Xbox one X comes out and see what you can get. VEGA will be out with lower powered variants which could prove a very nice upgrade for less than the console will cost.
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Where has that been confirmed?
Personally I can't ever see PC gaming truly pick up again, at least not where hardware and prices are concerned (more so if AMD fail with vega) and where graphics are really pushed. To me, it is on the road to becoming even more of an enthusiast/niche platform. PC gaming may generate a lot more profit than consoles for all your competitive, free to play/pay to win games but for 90% of the other games, consoles are still where the money is at.
Yup contrast ratio far superior to resolution
Regarding the xbox one x at 30 fps @ 4k for most of the titles, given that they only specifically mentioned forza was running at 60 fps, I think it is safe to say all the other titles we saw were running at 30 fps
I really don't get this, why the obscene obsession of zOMG 4k!!!!!!! From what I've seen, most people would prefer to have 60 fps 1080P in games....
Just one of the many surveys I've seen.
Or even better..... give a choice in games....
1. 4k @ 30 fps
2. 1080P @ 60 fps
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Personally I can't ever see PC gaming truly pick up again, at least not where hardware and prices are concerned (more so if AMD fail with vega) and where graphics are really pushed. To me, it is on the road to becoming even more of an enthusiast/niche platform. PC gaming may generate a lot more profit than consoles for all your competitive, free to play/pay to win games but for 90% of the other games, consoles are still where the money is at.
Yup contrast ratio far superior to resolution
Regarding the xbox one x at 30 fps @ 4k for most of the titles, given that they only specifically mentioned forza was running at 60 fps, I think it is safe to say all the other titles we saw were running at 30 fps
I really don't get this, why the obscene obsession of zOMG 4k!!!!!!! From what I've seen, most people would prefer to have 60 fps 1080P in games....
Just one of the many surveys I've seen.
Or even better..... give a choice in games....
1. 4k @ 30 fps
2. 1080P @ 60 fps
its a shame consoles missed out on 1440p
They target tvs not monitors.
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Not sure how legit that is, cause ain't most console gamers keep arguing that human eye cannot perceive more than 30fps?Regarding the xbox one x at 30 fps @ 4k for most of the titles, given that they only specifically mentioned forza was running at 60 fps, I think it is safe to say all the other titles we saw were running at 30 fps
I really don't get this, why the obscene obsession of zOMG 4k!!!!!!! From what I've seen, most people would prefer to have 60 fps 1080P in games....
Just one of the many surveys I've seen.
Or even better..... give a choice in games....
1. 4k @ 30 fps
2. 1080P @ 60 fps
Not sure how legit that is, cause ain't most console gamers keep arguing that human eye cannot perceive more than 30fps?
haha true that
Ubisoft have brain washed them well 
But yeah that particular survey by x might be a little one sided by having PC gamers voting too....
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Not sure how legit that is, cause ain't most console gamers keep arguing that human eye cannot perceive more than 30fps?
Heard that too much as of late. I know I should not of got into it but I had an argument with someone who claimed 30fps looks better as games are like movies ??????
The benefits of gaming on pc are becoming less these days. Why try and play 4k on pc when the games will be made/optomised to run on the new xbox/ps4 hardware without issues anyway. It seems High end pc hardware is just for benching and fps counting now. Along with all the perks of crashes and driver problems etc. If you had said in here 5 years ago that sli/crossfire setups and support would be non existent in 5 years time , sall of the pitchforks would be out to get you(crazy talk) . Just goes to show how bad things have come that this is accepted as normal now. Not to mention the lack of third party servers on bf1 too.... well that's my rant over anyway
Yup pretty much, the funny thing is people will say that PC gaming is better than ever before! 
Your example of BF 1 and servers is also a pretty good showing of the direction of BF/dice titles too, especially with regards to the gameplay e.g. the gunplay/control was completely revamped to have only console controller users in mind.
Your example of BF 1 and servers is also a pretty good showing of the direction of BF/dice titles too, especially with regards to the gameplay e.g. the gunplay/control was completely revamped to have only console controller users in mind.Because consoles are free of game, framerate and driver issues? No, no they are not.
Why all this "why try do this on PC" there's no trying about it. If you want an identicle system to the XB1X with reduced settings and 30fps 4K you buy a £600 rx480 based rig.
If you want all the eye candy and 4K 60fps+ then you get a top end PC. Even if gaming on a 4K TV.
If you prefer consoles and want to enjoy a more cost effective but decent gaming experience you get a console.
It's all about preference and what the end user wants. Saying this or that person should get this because of a load of 5 year old waffle is not the way to go about it.
The big issue I have is that £500+ gpus are now the norm. People are just happily paying it. I'm victim of it myself. I have a gtx1080 and ek waterblock but I can say for sure that I dont feel any better from this card than I did when I bought a bang for buck 7950 for about £135 new at Ocuk years back.
We don't get boundry pushing games like Farcry or Crysis now. We just get stuff that is multiplatform and runs decent enough on most £200 cards. The obsession with performance somewhat spoils the gaming experience for me. People put an FPS counter on a game they were happily playing, see they are actually getting less Fps than they thought and feel they gotta ***** £800 on making that game run about 30% better. It's a crap market. In the good old days you'd get yourself a Voodoo2 and have your mind blown by your games being so improved. Now its just like "oh thats nice".
We don't get boundry pushing games like Farcry or Crysis now. We just get stuff that is multiplatform and runs decent enough on most £200 cards. The obsession with performance somewhat spoils the gaming experience for me. People put an FPS counter on a game they were happily playing, see they are actually getting less Fps than they thought and feel they gotta ***** £800 on making that game run about 30% better. It's a crap market. In the good old days you'd get yourself a Voodoo2 and have your mind blown by your games being so improved. Now its just like "oh thats nice".
And another thing. Other than Tomb Raider and Metro Last Light I'd say no games I've bought have looked as good to me as Uncharted, Last of Us and God of War 3. I've not seen Horizon Zero Dawn but that looks like a standout game too. I do game at 1440p G Sync IPS on a good PC too.
Defending PC gaming is always gonna be important to me because its my go-to platform above anything else. But its not nearly as black and white as it used to be.
Defending PC gaming is always gonna be important to me because its my go-to platform above anything else. But its not nearly as black and white as it used to be.
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Kind of how I feel, like I said above, the expense isn't justifiable for a "high end" PC gaming machine now, at least not for me and moving forward I just think it will get even harder to tweak/upgrade the PC and sit down and PC game like the old days, unfortunately, all part of "life" getting in the way.
I do miss just being able to turn on a console, play the game, not worry about what performance, settings etc. are, it somewhat takes away from the enjoyment of "gaming" and makes it all a little less immersive imo.
I am now set on a console, PS 4 just has too many good exclusives these days, will still choose PC for any FPS online shooters and RPG/MMO but everything else will be on console unless the PC version is particularly good or/and online friends get the game on PC instead. Maybe pick up a xbox one x as well in a year or 2 for other games.
I just need a good PS 4 pro bundle to come along now!
Also whilst console games aren't free of issues either, they definitely aren't anywhere as bad as games on PC on release day i.e. batman arkham knight, deus ex (these 2 games even had missing graphical effects on the PC......) but then this is where PC gaming is an advantage in some ways too i.e. if a game is broke, someone on some forum/reddit might be able to fix it before the developers do.
Kind of how I feel, like I said above, the expense isn't justifiable for a "high end" PC gaming machine now, at least not for me and moving forward I just think it will get even harder to tweak/upgrade the PC and sit down and PC game like the old days, unfortunately, all part of "life" getting in the way.
I do miss just being able to turn on a console, play the game, not worry about what performance, settings etc. are, it somewhat takes away from the enjoyment of "gaming" and makes it all a little less immersive imo.
I am now set on a console, PS 4 just has too many good exclusives these days, will still choose PC for any FPS online shooters and RPG/MMO but everything else will be on console unless the PC version is particularly good or/and online friends get the game on PC instead. Maybe pick up a xbox one x as well in a year or 2 for other games.
I just need a good PS 4 pro bundle to come along now!
Also whilst console games aren't free of issues either, they definitely aren't anywhere as bad as games on PC on release day i.e. batman arkham knight, deus ex (these 2 games even had missing graphical effects on the PC......) but then this is where PC gaming is an advantage in some ways too i.e. if a game is broke, someone on some forum/reddit might be able to fix it before the developers do.