When are you going fully electric?

Yes, think it's amazing

Anything specific you want to know?

Thanks. I dont really see many people with these and they dont seem to be as popular as other EVs. Ive had ICE Audi Q7s and Q5s in the past, are the etrons just as good? What range are you getting from it please? Any pros and cons now you have had it a while?

I have a test drive booked for next week but you never find all the annoying things from one test drive.
 
Thanks. I dont really see many people with these and they dont seem to be as popular as other EVs. Ive had ICE Audi Q7s and Q5s in the past, are the etrons just as good? What range are you getting from it please? Any pros and cons now you have had it a while?

I have a test drive booked for next week but you never find all the annoying things from one test drive.

I would imagine that the reason for them not being as popular in the UK (except for some insane NHS salary sacrifice deals) is range, price and availability.

I have been looking to change my 2019 Q7 for one and had several issues:

1, range is pitiful. Real world figures puts the 50 at around 150 miles and the 55 at around 190 miles.
2, Price is ridiculous. 55 is 12k more than 50 and the specs are typical old style Audi. You want rear cupholders in armrest? Pay for a pack, etc.
3, Despite this, I went o order one and was quoted November at the earliest for a factory order with my spec.

An add on, Next year the Audi Q6 is coming as a true ev only model, rather than a conversion of a current drivetrain. It will blow the etron out of the water come range, etc. I would be mighty miffed to order an etron now for Nov/Dec delivery to keep reading about the latest and greatest large ev Audi just around the corner.

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/spy-shots/audi/q6-e-tron/

Apart from that, the car is lovely, typical Audi inside which I love, I just wish I could go for a day out to Yorkshire coast (80 miles away) without having to worry about charging when I get there. My wife's ID3 can manage it no problem, and a Q6 will be able to manage it as well.
 
Thanks. I dont really see many people with these and they dont seem to be as popular as other EVs. Ive had ICE Audi Q7s and Q5s in the past, are the etrons just as good? What range are you getting from it please? Any pros and cons now you have had it a while?

I have a test drive booked for next week but you never find all the annoying things from one test drive.

There's a lot to say on this, but it all comes down to how you intend to purchase it. Will it be through a business, a work scheme or a personal purchase (finance, cash or lease)? This makes a huge difference.

I'll be totally honest, the only reason I bought the etron was through my works car scheme. Mine is a 50 E-Tron Sport which gives you the nicer alloys, seats and glass buttons on the center console rather than plastic. No upfront cost, for £250 a month including insurance for two people, servicing, breakdown cover, tax etc etc. I was also able to get a free home charger, so the only thing I have to pay for is the electricity costs. I'm now on octopus go so get the 5p rate between 00:00-04:00.

The car itself is amazing. I didn't know it at the time, but the etron comes with air suspension which is just something else. Never had a car with it before, but damn is it nice to drive. It's more like flying a plane than driving a car. It's very, very good.

My journeys since 1st sept 2020 when it was delivered is 100% city driving. Due to lockdown we've not been on any long trips, but it's doing about 165ish range which for us is plenty. We're only charging it twice a week, but we keep the charge between 20%-80% to ensure it completes within the cheap tarrif.

There's not much I can say against it. The build quality is typical Audi, no rattles, soft plastics, great infotainment, it's a very nice place to be. The drive is fantastic. I really like it.

That said, if it wasn't for the deal I got, I doubt I'd buy it. That's not to say I won't be buying it though..... Think of EVs like computers back in the day. They get released at £2,000, then a year later a new model comes out twice as good as yours which is now worth £1,000 (or even less). That's what I think will happen to the E-Tron. It's Audis first EV, and as brilliant as it is, the Q4 and Q6 are just around the corner. I'd say the E-Tron is probably better than the Q4 if only because of the suspension, but the Q6? Mmmmmm. Once they are out, the E-Trons price will surely tank. That's what I'm hoping for anyway, as if it does, I have the chance to buy it after my lease term is up :)

Audi didn't expect these to be a big seller. They were kinda of a beta car. Test the technology, learn from it, and use that knowledge for the next ones.

It's without a doubt the nicest EV current available though.

There is something else to think about with EVs. Audis are great cars, but average EVs whereas Teslas are great EVs but crap cars. There is a lot to be said for Teslas technology and charging network. The model 3 has always been in the back of my mind.
 
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There are plenty of cheaper EV's on the way. I saw someone the other day saying "after the ICE ban, what will a nurse who'd buy a £5k Corsa buy.. they can't afford £30k for an EV" ... and surely the answer is a £5k used EV?! (Maybe £6k seeing as the running costs are much lower).

People are comparing the prices of brand new EV's with 10 year old ICE's.

2030 is 9 years away. That means there will be plenty of used EVs around by then. So in 2030, instead of buying a 2020 Corsa 1.2 petrol, buy a 2020 Corsa-E, or a 2020 Nissan leaf.

Or, in 2030 buy a 2024 Corsa petrol, hang on to it for a few years then buy a 2027 Renault Zoe.

Within a few years there will be EV's at pretty much every price point.
 
There's a lot to say on this, but it all comes down to how you intend to purchase it. Will it be through a business, a work scheme or a personal purchase (finance, cash or lease)? This makes a huge difference.

I'll be totally honest, the only reason I bought the etron was through my works car scheme. Mine is a 50 E-Tron Sport which gives you the nicer alloys, seats and glass buttons on the center console rather than plastic. No upfront cost, for £250 a month including insurance for two people, servicing, breakdown cover, tax etc etc. I was also able to get a free home charger, so the only thing I have to pay for is the electricity costs. I'm now on octopus go so get the 5p rate between 00:00-04:00.

The car itself is amazing. I didn't know it at the time, but the etron comes with air suspension which is just something else. Never had a car with it before, but damn is it nice to drive. It's more like flying a plane than driving a car. It's very, very good.

My journeys since 1st sept 2020 when it was delivered is 100% city driving. Due to lockdown we've not been on any long trips, but it's doing about 165ish range which for us is plenty. We're only charging it twice a week, but we keep the charge between 20%-80% to ensure it completes within the cheap tarrif.

There's not much I can say against it. The build quality is typical Audi, no rattles, soft plastics, great infotainment, it's a very nice place to be. The drive is fantastic. I really like it.

That said, if it wasn't for the deal I got, I doubt I'd buy it. That's not to say I won't be buying it though..... Think of EVs like computers back in the day. They get released at £2,000, then a year later a new model comes out twice as good as yours which is now worth £1,000 (or even less). That's what I think will happen to the E-Tron. It's Audis first EV, and as brilliant as it is, the Q4 and Q6 are just around the corner. I'd say the E-Tron is probably better than the Q4 if only because of the suspension, but the Q6? Mmmmmm. Once they are out, the E-Trons price will surely tank. That's what I'm hoping for anyway, as if it does, I have the chance to buy it after my lease term is up :)

Audi didn't expect these to be a big seller. They were kinda of a beta car. Test the technology, learn from it, and use that knowledge for the next ones.

It's without a doubt the nicest EV current available though.

There is something else to think about with EVs. Audis are great cars, but average EVs whereas Teslas are great EVs but crap cars. There is a lot to be said for Teslas technology and charging network. The model 3 has always been in the back of my mind.

Thanks. Similar to you this will be super cheap through company scheme. The only thing that worries me is the short(ish) range of it.

Air suspension is great. my last 2 cars have had the Audi air suspension and I wouldnt want to go back to a car without one now.
 
hynundai ioniq5 400/800 v charging - anyone understand this ?

.... On the contrary, the E-GMP boasts the world’s first multi-charging system that can accommodate either 800V or 400V charging without the need for an additional adapter. This hassle-free innovation stems from Hyundai Motor Group’s patented technology for boost conversion, whereby the charge from a 400V source is boost-converted into 800V by the rear motor and the inverter before it reaches the battery.

yes if you are charging at a higher voltage, you get current/charge into the car faster (without boiling the cable, like the national grid high voltages)
but why would you convert 400v to 800V ? as opposed to just being able to split the battery pack into two parallel cell blocks you charge at 400V ?
otherwise if you genuinely boost (buck convertor) 400-800v then there must be inefficiency.

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Plastic quality in the ioniq wil be interesting to see,
with the cameras : didn't see if the rear view mirror is also a screen ? with those large C pillars - let's have some innovation in more inteior light, please, manufacturers.
but, more generally, more cameras will facilitate the rear facing seating position safety and science fiction have long time been promising.
 
yes if you are charging at a higher voltage, you get current/charge into the car faster (without boiling the cable, like the national grid high voltages)
but why would you convert 400v to 800V ? as opposed to just being able to split the battery pack into two parallel cell blocks you charge at 400V ?
otherwise if you genuinely boost (buck convertor) 400-800v then there must be inefficiency.

I'd imagine it is done to allow the car to max out the 400v chargers current delivery, thus faster charging at a lower current (800v converted) meaning less battery deg, also the inefficiency in a transformer is very small, <2% normally (when this size).
 
I think its really interesting the Ioniq 5, i don't love the look but it's more than acceptable and as Johnny says a nice move away from generic SUV types.

The only thing that would bother me is the width living out in the sticks and having to drive around lots of country lanes and possibly bad turning circle with such a big wheel base? Although i'm sure the wheels can pivot a lot more to make up for that.
 
Thanks. Similar to you this will be super cheap through company scheme. The only thing that worries me is the short(ish) range of it.

Air suspension is great. my last 2 cars have had the Audi air suspension and I wouldnt want to go back to a car without one now.

I guess the question you need to ask yourself is in a typical year (unlike last year) how many times do you travel more than 80 miles from home? and of that number, how will having to stop for a charge affect you?
 
Thanks. Similar to you this will be super cheap through company scheme. The only thing that worries me is the short(ish) range of it.

Air suspension is great. my last 2 cars have had the Audi air suspension and I wouldnt want to go back to a car without one now.
I had the choice of the E Tron 50 Black Edition or the Polestar 2 with my work scheme and went with the Polestar in the end. For me, the E Tron felt too much like the car I already had (A6 50TDI) in terms of interior and I wanted to try something new. I also wanted something fast that could do 200+ miles (my office/LHR is 100 miles away), so the E Tron didn't really fit the bill.

I did have a drive in one and it's an incredibly lovely place to be, just wasn't for me.
 
I really like the Ioniq 5, I have never considered a Hyundai before as they have always seemed bland and generic but I love the styling. I would order one but with 3 kids ideally we need a 7 seater for school runs and general load carrying ability. Currently the only 6-7 seater that I like the look of is the Model X but at £104k it's hard to justify on a car the kids will trash.
 
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