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It’s BMW premium brand. What else did you expect? Yes manufacturers are optimising products (not in the case IMO) to sustain their business... Evil Lord Business
When are you going fully electric?
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It’s BMW premium brand. What else did you expect? Yes manufacturers are optimising products (not in the case IMO) to sustain their business... Evil Lord Business
Soldato
Definitely need more saloons and hatchbacks to come out, most are ******* SUVs which is annoying. Why go with the hideous snout on an EV on the BMW, guess they want to maintain the design language which is a shame. Im sure it will be a great car though
yeah they could have totally ditched the big bum on the front and gone for more streamlining.
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Agree the amount of EV SUV/crossover shi** on sale is annoying. Would love to see a good-handling hot EV hatchback.
Might be in the minority but I quite like the front end on the BMW. Looks like they spent most of their time styling the front end though as it looks progressively boring the further back you look.
Welcome to 2021 car prices.
These days, even a base spec ICE Ford Focus RRP is over £22k !!
wltp(~CdA) based taxation should eventually fix that .. government is effectively promoting bev suv's at the moment ?
well - model 3 has similar CdA as a merc CLA, despite the latters bonnet; so it would seem there a few design tweaks remaining (maybe fish like scales/external bodywork innovations ?)
Soldato
Check the XL1 or EQS for lower. Soon realise mass production does limit options. Especially battery prices drop efficiency becomes less critical.
those “horrid” BEV SUVs are still gonna remain the choice if you are moving 4 adults around frequenctly in my book. And ultimately the customer decides, which is why I just laugh at the people moaning about the new Defender.
those “horrid” BEV SUVs are still gonna remain the choice if you are moving 4 adults around frequenctly in my book. And ultimately the customer decides, which is why I just laugh at the people moaning about the new Defender.
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Soldato
Good point, more of those than farmers needing to move sheep with a non specialised vehicle.
SUV sheep is the right marrrrrket
and this is why electric isnt viable for me yet.. I dont want a car that is 50% as good at X years... Petrol cars dont lose 50% range or performance at X years do they?
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Depends how old the car is. Most ICE's lose power over the years, even with regular servicing.
Soldato
This was the official live stream for the new BMW stuff from yesterday, skip to 3:40 for it to start
Has some interior stuff later on.
Has some interior stuff later on.
Soldato
Bjorn has a review up of the iX interior, and a bit of the exterior. Nice on the inside, the outside looks hideous IMO.
Do they? I know this was featured in Top Gear a few times, but in the real world, is it true?
Nope, some seem to gain it even as the engine wears a bit.
Top Gear mostly went and bought the cheapest sheds they could find at the time.
They may lose power but a service can bring it back. It's not the same as an EV losing range over 10 years though, the comparison would be your fuel tank shrinks over time.