when is Fermi comming out cos im getting tempted with the new ATI

[Geekazoid]

right guys as you know I sold my 295gtx and bought a 9600gso to make do till DX11 nvidia cards are released but any news on the release??? and is Fermi architecture even going to be for the gamer market as nvidia and delving into other things...

right now the ATI HD5970 is tempting me too much I don't know how long I can hold back with this slow ass GPU.....

p.s. can the HD5970 fit into an antec 902 case? I only have 1 hard drive hence have space in the hard drive bays...

 

[Geckovich]

Latest news is saying March at the earliest, but there are still people saying April. With the poor 40nm yields availability is likely to be as bad (if not worse) than the 5800 series too.

 

[Jynmagic]

Around March I think.

 

[tmaxxthomson]

around march ive heard but the rumors could be true about april? and availability is likley to be much worse than ati due to the massive die size of fermi compared to RV800

 

[Tute]

Late Q1 2010 at best.

 

[psychas]

march gx2 version January 300gtx

 

[Trunks9486]

Fermi will be late. As others said Late Q1 at best. And performance will most likely not exceed 5970.

 

[DavyBoy]

march gx2 version January 300gtx

Is this true?

From everything I have read about Fermi, it seems to be March.

I'm another one who is getting severely impatient, I've been sorely tempted to order a 5870 each time Oc have had some in stock!

 

[=VTA=MANFACE]

It will be July 2010 for hard launch.

Paper launch March 2010

 

[drunkenmaster]

Paper launch with whatever A3 silicon they get back might be sometime late January, there won't be real shipments till 2 months after that at the absolute earliest.

April/may seems the odd's on bet, but theres something few people are mentioning yet, and thats IF the A3 silicon is good enough, even Charlie doesn't suspect it won't be as yet.

It will be better availability than the 5870 right now this second, but worse than the 5870 was at launch and in a few weeks. its a much larger core, its yields will be lower than a smaller equivilent, meaning if AMD get say 100 cores off a waifer, Nvidia will only be getting maybe 55-60 ish. So production will literally be slower when a core is 50% larger, you can't get around that. A Fermi will also have a more expensive core, pcb, 1.5gb gddr5(I'm assuming AMD get better prices off Samsung and Hynix for it because they invested millions in its R&D and co own a lot of patents on it) so unless Nvidia take almost zero profit, I can't imagine it being anything less than £100 more expensive.


What we really want is Fermi's mid end parts to come out, smaller core won't offer any benefit over AMD's parts in terms of price, but on a mid end part they should drop to a smaller bus, a lot less memory and a hugely cheaper PCB which are the things that cause Nvidia's high end to be that much more expensive. If Nvidia can at least offer some price competition around the 5770 that should bring some price cuts around there, which will also cause a few price drops above it aswell. You can't sell a 5770 for £100, and a 5850 for £200, you need something in between, either a faster 5790, a 5830, or price drops on the 5850.

Problem is we have no clue when Nvidia will have a midrange part coming.

 

[Geekazoid]

it would be a good market strategy for nvidia to launch the midrange Fermi around January/February and there top end products around April/May... I mean think about it ATI pushed fast and hard to get there new architecture out although there is an availability issue... I might just take a shot a buy the 5970 I got 3 monitors begging to be played on

 

[AndrewN]

it would be a good market strategy for nvidia to launch the midrange Fermi around January/February and there top end products around April/May... I mean think about it ATI pushed fast and hard to get there new architecture out although there is an availability issue... I might just take a shot a buy the 5970 I got 3 monitors begging to be played on

It would be a good marketing strategy for nVidia to launch something that works . At the moment A2 doesn't, they will be getting A3 back soon but unless they have made a huge gamble and sent the production wafers through with the test wafers it will be another 6 to 8 weeks after they can show the test chips work before they will have anything to sell.

As for mid-range, we are looking at another 3 months at least for that, both ATI (and now AMD) and nVidia go for the top end first so that they can say 'look at me, aren't I wonderful' . Didn't you catch the surprise from all the review sites when ATI announced the mid range and low end boards were arriving so soon after the top end?

If you want anything in the next 4 months then go for a 5xxx, its the only game in town. I am fairly sure the prices will come down to launch or lower soon, I would say before christmas or just after.