When should we expect new sockets?

[xianate]

So i have a 990FXA-UD3 motherboard and a corsair H105 in my shopping basket, both of which obliviously make use of the AM3+ socket and I just wanted to know, how much longer do you think it will be until AM3+ is replaced?

I'm relatively new to the scene and don't know how long AM3+ has been around or how long AM3 was king of the hill.

I want to be able to upgrade to the latest CPU later down the line and still be able to use at least my H105 but I wont be able to do that if a new socket type is released in a couple months.

 

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[RobCrezz]

AM3+ has been around since about 2011. It needs to be replaced, but no idea when AMD will do so.

I would seriously recommend getting an intel platform for a new build at this stage.

 

[joeyjojo]

There's a lot of uncertainty around AMD's desktop CPUs (FX series). The current lineup (Steamroller) is rumoured to be the last before a totally new architecture in a couple of years time.

The next APU however (Carizzo) will get the next CPU iteration (Excavator). Rumours suggest it will still be FM2+.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18613636

AM3+ has been around since about 2011. It needs to be replaced, but no idea when AMD will do so.

I would seriously recommend getting an intel platform for a new build at this stage.

There's no sense in this though, Intel sockets have less longevity than AM3(+) has had, typically 1-2 years. No such thing as "future proof" in this sector.

 

[Martini1991]

The current AM3+ flagship line up is Piledriver.
Unless you've simply not got the budget for an 1150 system with an i5, then buying into AM3+ now isn't the best of idea's.

AM3+ looks like it'll be replaced in 2016, but AMD look like they're still bringing out new APU's with their new iterations (Steamroller for example is out as an APU, but not as an 8 core flagship chip)

There's no sense in this though, Intel sockets have less longevity than AM3(+) has had, typically 1-2 years. No such thing as "future proof" in this sector.

Don't think you're being very objective at all there.
AM3+ as a platform is outdated, it has a lower performance potential. Having an ancient platform that's outdated but not yet replaced doesn't mean it has a higher longevity than Intel platforms which have modern features and a higher performance potential.

Socket 1155 came out before AM3+, yet has PCI-E 3.0 and a higher performance potential, please tell me how the AM3+ has more longevity?
Socket 1150 may not have the same longevity as 1155 before it comes irrelevant as the performance potential hasn't gone up much despite the 2 year gap, but it's still got an even higher performance potential than any of the AMD set ups.

Also, if we actually delve into history, take socket 1366, that came out more than half a decade ago. AM3 came out after, but guess which platform is starting to offer performance that people find is too low? Yeah, the AM3 platform. The 1366 socket had a higher longevity by far as the performance it offered and still offers is higher than that of AM3. Ignoring how AM3 actually had no exclusive CPU's and was basically a waste of time socket, and the very sketchy way AM3+ was handled.

TLDR : The sockets which offer the highest performance potential are those with the higher longevity, and that would be Intel, not AMD.

 

[Doogles]

With AMD not really bring anything out that rivals there older products it doesn't make sense to go with AM3+ but Intel changes sockets every 2-3 years. Intel change after a Tick-Tock.

 

[RobCrezz]

There's a lot of uncertainty around AMD's desktop CPUs (FX series). The current lineup (Steamroller) is rumoured to be the last before a totally new architecture in a couple of years time.

The next APU however (Carizzo) will get the next CPU iteration (Excavator). Rumours suggest it will still be FM2+.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18613636



There's no sense in this though, Intel sockets have less longevity than AM3(+) has had, typically 1-2 years. No such thing as "future proof" in this sector.

Who said anything about future proof?

My point was that you get features in modern intel boards that you cant in AM3+ boards.

 

[Martini1991]

Intel seem to bring a new architecture to a socket, then die shrink on that socket, then go to a new socket with a new architecture.

 

[joeyjojo]

Who said anything about future proof?

My point was that you get features in modern intel boards that you cant in AM3+ boards.

Sorry, misunderstood! The feature difference is small though, what are you missing in AM3+ boards? PCIe 3?

 

[Martini1991]

Sorry, misunderstood! The feature difference is small though, what are you missing in AM3+ boards? PCIe 3?

The major one will be PCI-E 3.0 (Not that important at the moment, and not that it matters for AMD as the bottleneck will come from the CPU before PCI-E bandwidth). Intel with M2 allows for the faster SSD's.

And other refinements (Just general refinements overall).

Think Intels boards have better LAN chips etc.

But overall, the feature difference only falls down to a few things, it's more the performance potential for me.