When to have protein shake/ will it actually work.

shadowcreaper

shadowcreaper

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Before you direct me to other topics bout bodybuilding, first can i say this is NOTHING to do with getting "hench";)

I've recently started getting into cycling and competing, along with running i'm finding it very hard to keep lean muscle, especially upper body strength,of which i'm very good at(press-ups,pull-ups ect )

As such i'm looking to supplement my diet with protein shakes to help recover and not lose this muscle(maybe even help gain some more on legs ect)

Question is, should i take the shake after i've done my exercise ie 10k run/ 10 mile time trial, if so how long do i have to feel the full benefits (15mins, 1 hour after?)

Secondly, will taking protein shakes show any muscle gains? ie bigger arms/leg muscles? (ie how many times a week should i take it, at the moment aiming for 3 times after every series training session)

Protien shake in question is "Monkey Primal 26"
 
shadowcreaper said:
As such i'm looking to supplement my diet with protein shakes to help recover and not lose this muscle(maybe even help gain some more on legs ect)
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Cycling/running are endurance sports and wont really help to build muscle. Protien can help with recover after exercise, but these types of endurance sports are not much help for building muscle.
Look at all of the professional endurance cyclists/runners, none of them have big muscles.
Its not a question of how much protien you need, it just wont happen unless you incorporate some sort of weight training.
 
Protein shakes are just... well, a cheap - depending on where you buy it from - source of protein. 2 scoops of whey (at least the stuff I buy) is about 40g protein, which is the same as eating a tin of tuna, about 200g chicken, etc. There's nothing magic about it.
 
HOW MUCH?!?!?!

£74.95 for 2kgs!!!

What on earth, you can buy chicken (you can butchers steak) cheaper for that. Absolutely no need to be having shakes if you can get your protein through food. Just make sure your taking in enough that your body needs if not SUPPLEMENT with protein and not that shockingly overpriced crap.
 
You really would have been better off without your fallacious prejudice. I think every question/point you made contained something silly.

Read the threads you know you should.
 
If you want to try and maintain your lean mass you probably need to up your daily protein in take, preferably with food rather than shakes.

When cutting I make sure I'm eating at least 1.5g/kg of bodyweight.
Throwing some BCAA's and EAA's in the mix to aid with recovery.
 
touch said:
Cycling/running are endurance sports and wont really help to build muscle. Protien can help with recover after exercise, but these types of endurance sports are not much help for building muscle.
Look at all of the professional endurance cyclists/runners, none of them have big muscles.
Its not a question of how much protien you need, it just wont happen unless you incorporate some sort of weight training.
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Exactly. Shakes aren't some magic potion that will bulk you up by drinking them. You got to put some hard work in the weight room if you want to gain muscle.
 
Unfortunately Monkey Primal 26 is a weaker formula than Monkey Primal 25. You can therefore only expect small gains. I would recommend getting some 'extreme super pump nitro monster whey' (google it). Take that and you will feel the benefits (think of it like medicine that you take - it's certainly not just 'food')
 
cu3ed said:
I think you need to read up on what Protein actually is and what it does before you do anything.
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Just to clarify I'm not a moron,I highly doubt some who post ignorant comments about cycling and running and only live in a gym pumping iron.
On topic though :

Look at cav, is he a endurance cyclist with no muscle Lol? Or name a few track cyclists, they don't just cycle 1lap you know.

My point is , this protein shake is to supplement my current training thus looking for helpful advice of when its best to take, ie after gym sessions only or cycling sessions also work.

Also how much protein is required to bulk up ie repair damaged muscle. (40g =1 shake enough)
 
You do not need to SUPPLEMENT your diet when it is possible to obtain your nutritional requirements through REAL FOOD.

If your diet/macro's are on point as much as they can be, within your budget constraints, then a PWO whey shake could help but all it is is powdered dairy basically so expecting to see any results, apart from perhaps slightly increased recovery, from it alone is silly.

Save the £75 on buying overpriced whey and put it in to your weekly shopping budget instead.
 
shadowcreaper said:
Just to clarify I'm not a moron,I highly doubt some who post ignorant comments about cycling and running and only live in a gym pumping iron.
On topic though :

Look at cav, is he a endurance cyclist with no muscle Lol? Or name a few track cyclists, they don't just cycle 1lap you know.

My point is , this protein shake is to supplement my current training thus looking for helpful advice of when its best to take, ie after gym sessions only or cycling sessions also work.

Also how much protein is required to bulk up ie repair damaged muscle. (40g =1 shake enough)
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You're right, he's a beast:

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The reason why nobody is taking your seriously is because you are demonstrating little to no knowledge of 'bulking up'.

Bulking up is different to 'repairing damaged muscles'. Bulking up involves eating at a calorie surplus, lifting heavy weights (so there is something to 'repair') and getting adequate rest.

'Enough' is only a question that we can answer in relation to your whole diet. If you have 1x protein shake and have 200g of meat protein a day then yes it's arguably 'enough': if you have one protein shake and eat haribo all day, then no, it's not 'enough'.

OK you're not a moron, we believe you. Please do some research and decide on what you actually want. At this point it looks like you don't have a clue.

I don't know the ins and outs of cycling, only that Chris Hoy is a beast. Because of this:

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shadowcreaper said:
Just to clarify I'm not a moron,I highly doubt some who post ignorant comments about cycling and running and only live in a gym pumping iron.
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I'm not posting ignorant comments about cycling. I'm simply stating the fact that you wont build much muscle doing an endurance sport like cycling.
Not that it matters, but i havnt been in a gym for years and the only sport i do is cycling.

shadowcreaper said:
Look at cav, is he a endurance cyclist with no muscle Lol? Or name a few track cyclists, they don't just cycle 1lap you know.
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Cav isnt really that big, even amongst the other sprinters in road racing. Greipel, Goss and Kittel, for example, are noticeably bigger than cav. Their legs are no bigger than anybody who lifts weights could build in a few months in a gym. (I'm not saying that anybody could spend a few months in the gym and be as fast as these guys: muscle mass doesnt relate directly to speed.)

As for track riders, i assume you're referring to people like Hoy and Forstemann? (34 inch thighs :eek:) Technically, you're right, races are longer than 1 lap but generally a sprint will last 1-2 laps which is around 20-30 seconds. Thats not an endurance race.

Track riders who race longer distances are not quite so big.
 
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WKN said:
IMO All cyclists are skinny and have no muscle.
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Track cyclists have decent muscle, endurance distance tend to be thinner. I.e. Cav/Wiggo, but look at Hoy, Kenny or that French guy. They have massive legs. They spend a decent amount of time in the gym as well. I.e. see the picture of hoy leg pressing 631kg or something stupid...

kd
 
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