Where Are All The 3070 Laptops?

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A lot of the 3070 laptops have been removed for some reason, a15, strix 165hz 3070 etc..

Where have they all gone? Also why on overclockers does it say a 1 year warranty with these kind of laptops when it should come with 2 year?
 
I'm guessing they're beginning to have supply issues.

I ordered the ASUS ROG STRIX G15 3060 when it was showing 10+ in stock.

Order went through, but a few hours later it said "This product had been removed".

A few days later, I had to cancel the order as they had no stock.

Managed to grab the last of the MSI GE66's before they went.

Lenovo Legion is probably your best bet now, but it's uncertain when they're going to be shipping. I couldn't wait and I'm very happy with the GE66, although the styling it's entirely to my taste.

This one is pretty sweet (full power 3070) - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...-240hz-i7-10870h-gaming-laptop-lt-0ct-gi.html - but expensive!
 
A lot of the 3070 laptops have been removed for some reason, a15, strix 165hz 3070 etc..

Where have they all gone? Also why on overclockers does it say a 1 year warranty with these kind of laptops when it should come with 2 year?

Miners have them. This is really annoying because these f..........kers buy them so quickly
 
You could always check out Alienware. Also 11th gen Intel for laptops is due soon. Maybe in May. So we hopefully we see more stock with the new CPUs.
 
I'd expect the Lenovo's to be back in stock quite soon. The last round had a 6 week+ lead time but I ordered and have that cut to just over 3 weeks so production must be going OK.
 
I'd expect the Lenovo's to be back in stock quite soon. The last round had a 6 week+ lead time but I ordered and have that cut to just over 3 weeks so production must be going OK.
Mine is still saying August 10th so might be a while yet, plus they are still waiting on a US release.
 
Mining on a laptop does not make financial sense...

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Let's compare a similar investment strategy involving substantial initial outlays in return for monthly income.

People rave about buying property to rent out, so let's compare the returns:

5% yield is considered reasonable for property, so let's spend £200k on a property and see our income:

5% £200k = £10k per annum.



Now, let's spend £200k on laptops, say Rig1 in my sig, which was £1700 - that gets us 117 laptops.

Each laptop generates 66 MH/s in ETH, which generates £4/day, or £1500 a year.

OK, so we're generating £175k per annum in ETH from our £200k investment.

BUT, we need to pay for electricity, so let's say each laptop eats 130W (Rig 1 is about this, Rig 2 is about 90 Watts - each measured at the wall).

I'm paying 15p/kWh, so each of these laptops needs about 15p per 8 hours, or 50p a day.

So, in total we're paying £21k in electricity per annum, reducing our profits to £154k per annum, or 77% annual yield.


So far, the laptops are completely trouncing the property...


BUT, property is a non-depreciating asset (unlike the laptops), so let's do this over a five year period (assuming the property appreciates at 3% per annum and the laptops go to zero).

5 years in property = £50k profit + £231k property = £281k for a £200k investment.
5 years in laptop mining = £770k profit - £200k in laptops = £570k for a £200k investment.

Yes, this is an over-simplification and there are risks / unknowns involved in both, namely:

Property prices vary wildly between boom and bust, but they never go to zero.
Crypto also varies wildly and *could* go to zero.
Crypto mining difficulty changes and the likely profits would go down over time as more people join the mining.
 
Yes, this is an over-simplification and there are risks / unknowns involved in both, namely:

Property prices vary wildly between boom and bust, but they never go to zero.
Crypto also varies wildly and *could* go to zero.
Crypto mining difficulty changes and the likely profits would go down over time as more people join the mining.

You totally forgot to quantify the potentially enormous tax liabilities you’d incur on your mining profits. Even if you offset your 200k laptop outlay against said profits, you’d still have all the problems and expense of finding an accountant versed in crypto such that you wouldn’t fall foul of hmrc. Will the “tax man” class electricity as an allowable expense? What other pitfalls might you find within the intricacies of the tax system? Who knows?

Certainly your comparison is eagerly argued but heavily flawed :p
 
You totally forgot to quantify the potentially enormous tax liabilities you’d incur on your mining profits. Even if you offset your 200k laptop outlay against said profits, you’d still have all the problems and expense of finding an accountant versed in crypto such that you wouldn’t fall foul of hmrc. Will the “tax man” class electricity as an allowable expense? What other pitfalls might you find within the intricacies of the tax system? Who knows?

Certainly your comparison is eagerly argued but heavily flawed :p

Tax isn't relevant because I'm comparing apples with apples. Your argument almost amounts to saying "I'd rather earn £10k per year than £154k per year because I would pay less tax."

In both cases the income is taxed at the marginal rate for the person in question.

There is no CGT in the crypto example becasue I've assumed no increase in the crypto price.

There is CGT payable on the property if it was sold.

EDIT - This is the last post I will make here as it's going off-topic (apologies!). Further information can be found in the tax thread here.

HMRC guidance was also recently updated.
 
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