Where do I stand?

Soldato
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As a new tenant has now taken over the flat I was renting with my bf, we are both now due our security deposit back.
we also had to over pay 15 days worth of rent as the new tenant couldnt move in straight away.

we paid a security deposit of £870 and are owed £290 for the refund for rent.

the company who have been acting on behalf of the landlord called my ex partner last week to confirm the amount we would be getting back

they stated when they had done the final inventory that there were a few issues. though they weren't being very specific with the details and we were left questioning what they were

we were not present at the final inventory which i thought was wrong because at the time we were still classed as tenants and should be there to confirm things (like we had to at the beginning)

then after several attempts to get hold of the contact we were informed that the kitchen tiles were dirty and the bath had limescale (even though my mum and I had gone through the flat several times cleaning and i used to clean the whole flat every sunday)

they then later informed us that we would be charged £48 for the carpet to be steam cleaned and that they had sent in a cleaner to do the bath and kitchen tiles. again after several attempts to contact them we were told that the carpet cleaning was done as a standard thing. stains or no stains it was done. they then said that a private cleaner had taken two hours to clean the bath and kitchen tiles which came to £25 as apparently she charged them £12.50 an hour.

they then also charged us for the advertising because we didnt see out our 6 month contract. fair enough we cant really argue this point even though the landlord would have had to pay for advertising if we had stayed for 6 months and he wouldnt have been getting rent for 2 months when the flat was empty.

my argument is that the contract (which we have checked again) does not state anywhere "as a standard procedure you will be charged for the carpets to be steam cleaned at the end of the tenancy"

can I therefore argue the case its not stated in the contract and can I request to see the bill that the cleaner gave them for her services? because it seems like they are taking this money but as soon as they've told us they are avoiding our calls

also she told my ex last week that the cheques were to be done on friday but as she was taking a half day we would have to wait till today to collect them. we didnt hear anything from her and after several attempts I managed to get through to someone. he had no knowledge of the cheques being collected and our contact had taken a half day!!!!!

to top it all i receive a bill from british gas regarding the prepayment meter for the electricity. when i moved out there was £17 left on the key. it stated on the bill that as of 24th may there was £15 on the meter. then it says that someone has since then, used £25 worth of electricity and that I owe them £10. may not seem much but where do I stand with this cos no cleaner should use that much but the interesting thing as well is that it says 161kw/h were used at night!!!!! so who is in there using that much electricity?! I'm thinking of speaking to the lady tomorrow when we "hopefully" collect our cheques. but want to know where I stand with all this cos i'm pretty annoyed!!


we should have been looking to get back £580 but now it only seems to be about £400 possibly less seen as the figures werent definitely confirmed to us

any advice would be greated appreciated
 
sorry it's taken a while to type this all up :D

First of all, Is your rental agreement with a private individual or a company?

Ok, i hope this makes sense, there is some ramblage though :D

Did you request to be present when they did the inventory or did you not know when it was taking place?

You should have been allowed to be there, otherwise it's null and void, they cannot prove that anything they claimed was broken/damaged/whatever, was done by you and not them. It's a trick as old as the hills and they often get away with it.

Same goes for the cleaning. You weren't given any evidence that the tiles/bath/carpet were dirty or at least more so than youd expect through normal wear and tear, and you should be able to see receipts for the 'cleaning' that took place - and if it doesn't specify that in your contract you're perfectly within your rights to dispute it.

The advertising, I think youre stuck on, because you did move out early.

As for the electricity, you tell BG that you moved out on the 17th. If the landlords didn't have anyone there to do meter readings etc while you were there, that is not your problem. They should have arranged to have someone there to take readings before you vacated the property. As with the inventory, even if they took you to court it would never stand up as they did not check it before you left the property, and someone else came in. If the cleaner used any electricity that is not to come from you, but the landlord.

Make sure you speak to her, and if you have no joy, put it in writing. I'd do that anyway tbh. However, you might have to suck it up and move on, as I've had several tenancies and been stung a few times for things I couldn't prove - on one case, a broken window and a stained carpet (she wanted them replaced and went in and ruined them after I left so she could get new ones from my deposit!!)
 
we did everything through a company and we weren't informed that the inventory was taking place

everytime my ex tries calling the company our contact doesnt return our calls and never seems to be there. the last excuse they gave for her was "oh well last week was half term and so she was with her children"

well sorry love but i dont care you owe us money! the new tenant has been there over a week now and it has taken them over a week to contact us.
 
in the 2nd link the last two sound similar to us in that our agreement did not state about the carpets and the third where my mum and i cleaned it and my mum is a cleaner fgs!!!!
 
secretspy said:
we did everything through a company and we weren't informed that the inventory was taking place

everytime my ex tries calling the company our contact doesnt return our calls and never seems to be there. the last excuse they gave for her was "oh well last week was half term and so she was with her children"

well sorry love but i dont care you owe us money! the new tenant has been there over a week now and it has taken them over a week to contact us.

that's ridiculous... go and look at linky3 in the last post, it should tell you what you need to know if they start deducting stuff. If they'e gone ahead and done it without you, they've not got a leg to stand on. Problem is, they've got your money and you might have to go to small claims to get it back. Have a look at that site and see what you think - then if you're sure you're owed the money, go to the Citizens Advice and ask them for help :)
 
thanks, those links definitely look helpful !! i'm not normally the one to cause an argument but since my last 2 ex's have tried to just take my money willy nilly I have got very protective of things. and i knew instantly something wasnt right though my ex cant really be bothered with it
 
Is there anytihng you coudl do to get extra compensation for them with holding your money with out any good reason for longer than they should. You hear aobut so so many land lords pulling crap like this and something should be able to be done to dish out some justice.
 
im not sure but if i do speak to the company im going to fight my case and say what ive just read on the CAB website

i.e not in the contract, not present at the inventory
 
just called the ex to ask him to bring over the contract so i can go to CAB

i basically said to him "if i can save at least £130 by not letting someone get away with it then i will" he kind of pinged out of his silly mode then

though he said the contract was in the bin!!! apparently when the new tenant moved in he chucked all the bills out

what a doofus!! sheesh some men just dont have any brains at all!
 
tell them if they don't refund you what your owed you'll go to the small claimes court, tbh 99% of the time they won't want the hassle and will cave in.
 
VeNT said:
tell them if they don't refund you what your owed you'll go to the small claimes court, tbh 99% of the time they won't want the hassle and will cave in.

brilliant. i was planning to say something like that. my mum reckons I should go to the CAB first and talk to them then go and talk to the company.
 
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