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Not necessarily. LLU is still possible on the BT FTTC/P platform. Obviously it will involve equipment sharing but even on ADSL2+ LLU it involves equipment sharing, just not as much equipment.
 
As much as I hate to say it BT is actually pretty good for traffic shaping atm and actually quite close to "unlimited" the current system applies "soft brakes" based on overall traffic levels as well as localised contention - so even a super heavy user might not see any noticeable slowdown much of the time unless their exchange is near capacity or everyones jumped on iplayer at the same time to watch something popular - it doesn't clap on anchors any more triggered just by the user going over some magical figure, you will be flagged for going over some magical figure but won't actually notice any throttling unless other conditions are met - at which point you'd go to the top of the list and see the brakes applied a little harder than someone with lower useage should there be a bottleneck somewhere in the system.

Tho I believe P2P traffic is still managed a bit more agressively especially at peak times, but most other protocols are managed as above these days (I have no sympathy for someone using 600+gig a month and crying coz their torrents are only doing 12KB/s between 5pm and midnight).

VM is actually a lot harsher these days than BT for traffic management strangely enough.

As for gaming - BT used to be fairly good - but they tend to shove interleaving on a lot more readily these days and it can be quite a bit of hassle to get it removed, added to that their 21CN network routing is well ****** ** is putting it midly - so expect to see 20-25ms pings whereas 10ms used to be easily achieveable back when their internal network routing was better - still perfectly playable but not 100% ideal.

To give you some idea how messed up their routing is (notes are roughly what the route is rather than the exact geo-location of that IP):

Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.241.131]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 9 ms 10 ms 9 ms 217.32.147.101 (somewhere in the middle of south Somerset)
3 10 ms 10 ms 11 ms 217.32.147.126
4 15 ms 15 ms 14 ms 213.120.181.126 (approx Birmingham)
5 15 ms 14 ms 14 ms 213.120.179.62
6 15 ms 14 ms 15 ms 213.120.179.182
7 15 ms 14 ms 14 ms acc2-10GigE-11-2-0.sf.21cn-ipp.bt.net [109.159.251.206] (Sheffield... yes you read that right Sheffield)
8 24 ms 23 ms 24 ms 109.159.251.153 (probably somewhere around Bletchley Park)
9 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms peer2-xe10-0-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net [109.159.254.128] (London finally!)
10 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms 194.74.65.42
11 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms 212.58.238.153
12 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms virtual-vip-231.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.241.131]


Trace complete.

Back in the day I'd route via Reading or Bletchley on a good day and Birmingham on a bad and see 12-15ms exit pings on a bad day and 9-10ms on a good.
 
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18 month contract with BT would be just too long for me.
A lot can happen in 18 months, how much would BT charge to end your contract early,£10, £100 or more.?

I personally wait for a couple of months or so, & see what happening with FTTC, by then other isp's might have things up & running with fttc, like BE.

I'm desperate to move to FTTC, but I'm prepared to wait.
 
BT - Online gaming Troubles? I've been with BT for around 18 months and I have NEVER had any online gaming troubles and I'm online gaming every day!
 
Only torrent traffic will drop out - BT's traffic management changed about April this year so you no longer get silly slow speeds on all protocols during peak times if you exceed some magic number of gigs.
 
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