which Nikon D750 or D810
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Unlimited funds, D810.
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All the wedding togs are going nuts over the D750, much more so than any other. It must be doing something right.
This, the entire internet seems to be raving about the D750 this is pretty much the first time I've seen a negative comment!
Internet propaganda mostly.
Now lets get this clear, the D750 is a great camera, there is really nothing wrong with it at all. The problem is it is placed between 3 other camera bodies and is not well differentiated.
I have mentioned the following points before but coincidentally Thom Hogan has just released an excellent review of the D750 which highlights exactly my issues:
http://www.dslrbodies.com/cameras/current-nikon-dslr-reviews/nikon-d750-review.html
The D810 is clearly a much better camera, everything is either identical or better, including the sensor and not just more pixels, lower noise, higher dynamic range, better detail retention, better colors. Also no AA filter, the resolution difference with the extra sensors and no filter is really quite significant. The D810 is much more pro-orientated. then there are things like the buffer is far bigger:
https://photographylife.com/nikon-d750-buffer-capacity
D750 (12 bit) : 25 photos and filling in 3.8 seconds,
D810 (12 bit): 47 photos and filling in 9.4 seconds.
For weddings, the D810 has a noticeably quieter shutter than the D750. In fact, the D810 in it is regular shooting mode is quieter than the D750 in its quite mode! The D810 also has a faster flash sync speed,
With the D810 there is a clear price premium as there often is at the high end. However, it should be noted that the D810 is really like 2 camera bodies in 1. The 16MP DX crops at 7FPS is incredibly useful and at the moment is about the fastest Nikon DX camera that has suitable resolution. So a D810 is like owning a D750 + D7100 and more all in 1 single body.
At the other end of the spectrum the D610 is incredibly close to the D750. They are more similar than different. If you are happy with the D750 it is almost certain you will be happy with the D610, and the D610 is incredibly cheap now. You get a very similar body, identical senor, very similar AF system that covers a similar area, same prosumer orientated features.
Really, you either have the budget for the D810 or you want a low cost FF solution. The D610 is £500 cheaper than the D750 (and is often found much cheaper refurbished), that is enough to by one of the nice new prime: 20mm f/1.8, 28mm f/1.8, 35mm f/1.8 or 50+85mmf/1.8 and with plenty of change on some of those for bags/batteries/flash.
If you shoot wildlife, sport, landscape, studio, architecture etc you will want the D810. You pay the premium but get the best and have the flexibility of a superb DX camera when needed. If you primarily shoot weddings/portraits the D810 is still superior but either the D610 or D750 will suffice and will be more or less indistinguishable.
Thus I just don't see a place for a D750. Sure if someone offered me a D750 or a D610 for free and I can pick just one, I will pick the D750 every time. If I did end up with a D750 I would still be buying a D7100. D810 is just a plain cheaper setup for nature togs.
If I didn't ave the budget for the D810 then i would be looking at refurbished D610/D600.
The D750 is sandwiched between tough competitors and I feel you either want to go one way or the other.
And that is not forgetting that there are plenty of other choices:
Df: D4 sensor on the cheap, retro, small, costs only slightly more than the D750
D800: Slightly slower than a D810, so if you don't shoot sports it is a bargain and the same price as a D750.
D600: Near incidental to a D610/D750. Bad reputation because of Nikon's monumental PR disaster wrt oil spots, but Nikon will change the mirror for free. Can be an utter bargain.
D700: Older but faster than any of these if 12MP is sufficient. Very cheap.
D3/D3s: can be had in similar price points second hand.
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D810 just because I heard the quiet shutter mode is better. I also hear the AF points are slightly better spaced, not sure how they are spaced if you only have 11 points active. They could potentially be equal in that respect.
No flippy flappy screen though on D810, it would be nice to be able to lift the camera above peoples head and see what you are taking a picture of instead of guessing..
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Turns out a friend up the road has a D610...I shall report back when I get a chance to see for myself.
This might end up really expensive.
This might end up really expensive.
The D750 have the AF points of the D810 all shrunk down to a size not much bigger than that covered by the D610, so even using 11 points you get the smaller coverage area.
There are a few other noticeable difference that start to add up:
D810 Pros
- No AA filter
- Much longer and bigger buffer despite larger file size
- Native base ISO of 64
- sRAW support (but typically best avoided)
- CF card slot and faster CF cards allow even bigger buffer times
- 1/8000th sec vs 1/4000
- Improved viewfinder and prism
- Better mechanical shutter, not only much quiter but longer life expectancy
- Stronger body with better weather sealing
- 1/250th second Flash sync speed (vs 1/200th)
- Built in viewfinder cover
The main pros with the D750 is the flippy screen (a long as you dont berak it...) and built in WIFI.
The speed difference is not really there. Although the D750 does 6.5FPs and the D810 5FPS as full resolution, the 1.2X crop mode of the D810 gives 25MP images at 6FPS and what is more the buffer is way bugger in the D810. At 1.2X crop mode the D810 will give 68 12 bit RAws over a 13.5 seconds, the D750 will be only 25 RAWs and filled in 3.8 seconds.
Thus for sports and things the D810 is still really the choice camera.
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I'd stick with 2 identical bodies.
The D750 is getting almost universally very positive reviews from critics, professionals and users alike, and is apparently selling like hot cakes, so clearly it does have a place and clearly there is good demand for a camera like it. I have only seen very few people naysaying it, and most of those who have not used/purchased it.
Where I live the difference between a D610 and a D750 is £250, and the difference between a D750 and a D810 is £582, and for non-professionals I think the D750 makes sense considering it has many of the features of the D810, barring the ones that the average enthusiast or prosumer likely isn't going to miss.
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I have a D600 myself and the D750 has the advantage of having more AF points spread towards the outer parts of the frame. The grip is also better defined for heavier lenses although the top plate LCD is now smaller. Both the D750/D610/D600 are also smaller and lighter than the D810 too.
Well, I went out and bought a D750 last week... crazy thing is where i live the prices seem to be around 30% cheaper than UK, so I paid £1660 including lens and 3 year warranty! 
I wanted to go full frame and get something a bit more meaty as I ran into low-light limitations with the D7000, and the autofocus system wasn't the quickest or most accurate. The D750 is a clear improvement both in terms of low light handling, with much cleaner images at higher ISO's, and a much better (although slightly narrower coverage) AF system that seems to be on the money 95% of the time. It also has some cool features like WiFi, meaning you can use your smartphone as a remote (though with very limited options, basically just focussing, shutter release, and playback) which will come in very handy for group photos etc. It's a nice feature.
Potential limitations of the camera seem to be a small buffer size that gives around 12 RAW images in a single burst with a 30MB/s write speed SD, which doesn't really bother me as I'm not really a sports snapper, although I have ordered 2x new SD cards with 80MB/s write speeds which should give me a few more frames if I need it. Also, it has the max 1/4000s shutter speed... but I also don't see this as a problem as there are only very specific scenarios where this would be important (basically quite extreme light or motion conditions) to me, and I've never needed it thus far. *shrugs*
The 24-120 "kit lens" (if it can be called that, as it's a decent lens in its own right) has an aperture through the range of f4, and from the limited test photos I did so far while out and about, it seems to be pretty quick and sharp throughout the range, though bokkeh could be better. However, as a general purpose lens with good reach, I think it will do the job perfectly to start with.
What I also like is that I can just bang my DX 35mm 1.8g on there and it automatically detects and adjusts the sensor crop to DX format. Of course this only gives me around 11MP to play with, but does mean I can still get some fun out of my prime before I eventually get around to stumping up for the FX versions. Will probably head for the following lenses next:
I also need to decide which flash I want to get... the Yongnuo's get very good reviews and are miles cheaper than the Nikon equivalents so I may grab one of those to test.
Couple of quick shots I took on Sunday before it started peeing it down:
Really looking forward to playing with it more.
I wanted to go full frame and get something a bit more meaty as I ran into low-light limitations with the D7000, and the autofocus system wasn't the quickest or most accurate. The D750 is a clear improvement both in terms of low light handling, with much cleaner images at higher ISO's, and a much better (although slightly narrower coverage) AF system that seems to be on the money 95% of the time. It also has some cool features like WiFi, meaning you can use your smartphone as a remote (though with very limited options, basically just focussing, shutter release, and playback) which will come in very handy for group photos etc. It's a nice feature.
Potential limitations of the camera seem to be a small buffer size that gives around 12 RAW images in a single burst with a 30MB/s write speed SD, which doesn't really bother me as I'm not really a sports snapper, although I have ordered 2x new SD cards with 80MB/s write speeds which should give me a few more frames if I need it. Also, it has the max 1/4000s shutter speed... but I also don't see this as a problem as there are only very specific scenarios where this would be important (basically quite extreme light or motion conditions) to me, and I've never needed it thus far. *shrugs*
The 24-120 "kit lens" (if it can be called that, as it's a decent lens in its own right) has an aperture through the range of f4, and from the limited test photos I did so far while out and about, it seems to be pretty quick and sharp throughout the range, though bokkeh could be better. However, as a general purpose lens with good reach, I think it will do the job perfectly to start with.
What I also like is that I can just bang my DX 35mm 1.8g on there and it automatically detects and adjusts the sensor crop to DX format. Of course this only gives me around 11MP to play with, but does mean I can still get some fun out of my prime before I eventually get around to stumping up for the FX versions. Will probably head for the following lenses next:
- NIKON AF-S VR 105mm F/2.8 IF ED Macro or SIGMA 105mm F/2.8 EX DG OS HSM Macro
- Nikon/Sigma 35mm or 50mm f/1.4G
I also need to decide which flash I want to get... the Yongnuo's get very good reviews and are miles cheaper than the Nikon equivalents so I may grab one of those to test.
Couple of quick shots I took on Sunday before it started peeing it down:
Really looking forward to playing with it more.
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If you want a compact and lightweight lens try this one:
http://mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/nikon/nikkoresources/AFNikkor/AF2870mm/index.htm
I had one lying around from my old F90 setup and I was going to use it as a stop gap until I got a 24-85MM or 24-120MM later on. Not only is it very compact but my example is sharp edge to edge and extremely resistant to flare too.
I also using a Tokina ATX-Pro 17MM and a Sigma 100-300MM/F4 with a 1.4X TC.
I am quite impressed by the dynamic range and high ISO ability of the sensor in the D600 and AFAIK the D750 has an improved version of the same sensor.
http://mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/nikon/nikkoresources/AFNikkor/AF2870mm/index.htm
I had one lying around from my old F90 setup and I was going to use it as a stop gap until I got a 24-85MM or 24-120MM later on. Not only is it very compact but my example is sharp edge to edge and extremely resistant to flare too.
I also using a Tokina ATX-Pro 17MM and a Sigma 100-300MM/F4 with a 1.4X TC.
I am quite impressed by the dynamic range and high ISO ability of the sensor in the D600 and AFAIK the D750 has an improved version of the same sensor.
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Well, I just added the Integral 80MB/s SD Card and it makes a huge difference to continuous shooting speed after the 12 full speed shots (14-bit) are buffered... stays a steady 2fps or so. Ok, not world-beating, but still a 100% difference over the previous card! 
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I started a thread about swithcing over from my 5D3 not long ago and updated it today.
As has already been said, if your budget can handle it then D810.
We've just gone for 2 x D750's purely because the budget wouldn't stretch to two D810's and we wanted identical cameras for weddings.
As has already been said, if your budget can handle it then D810.
We've just gone for 2 x D750's purely because the budget wouldn't stretch to two D810's and we wanted identical cameras for weddings.