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Which one of these options sucks the least?

Vexr

Vexr

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I play at 3440x1440 ultrawide on a 100hz FreeSync monitor. I have a Ryzen 7 2700, 16 GB DDR4, and... an RX 550 2GB.

I did have a 1070 Ti, but GSync borderless fullscreen issues prompted me to sell it and use an RX 550 backup card instead. Because there's no news about that being fixed on NVidia cards, I'm unwilling to chance it with a GeForce card again.

So my options seem to be:

1) Stick with the RX 550 and only play WoW Classic (manages 60-90 fps at graphics setting 4/10 with high textures native res), until all is made right with the world and something like big Navi is released. Rumours say this could be within a few months, plus Brexit will be a non-issue, so panic buying now in fear of that would be definite grounds for regret.

2) Go for an RX 5700 XT. Brexit is coming, and when that happens there'll be hyperinflation and no one but the very well off in this country will be able to buy nice things like good graphics cards anymore, plus AMD won't be releasing any better graphics cards anyway for like 10 months, and then they'll be nearly matching NVidia for severe overpricing (+Brexit tax).

3) Middle ground - buy something like a used Vega 56 (pref under £200). My PC therefore won't be as crippled as it is now with an RX 550, though it won't really be hitting the sweet spot for performance at this resolution and refresh rate (the 1070 Ti didn't either).

4) ???
 
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Vexr said:
I play at 3440x1440 ultrawide on a 100hz FreeSync monitor. I have a Ryzen 7 2700, 16 GB DDR4, and... an RX 550 2GB.

I did have a 1070 Ti, but GSync borderless fullscreen issues prompted me to sell it and use an RX 550 backup card instead. Because there's no news about that being fixed on NVidia cards, I'm unwilling to chance it with a GeForce card again.

So my options seem to be:

1) Stick with the RX 550 and only play WoW Classic (manages 60-90 fps at graphics setting 4/10 with high textures native res), until all is made right with the world and something like big Navi is released. Rumours say this could be within a few months, plus Brexit will be a non-issue, so panic buying now in fear of that would be definite grounds for regret.

2) Go for an RX 5700 XT. Brexit is coming, and when that happens there'll be hyperinflation and no one but the very well off in this country will be able to buy nice things like good graphics cards anymore, plus AMD won't be releasing any better graphics cards anyway for like 10 months, and then they'll be nearly matching NVidia for severe overpricing (+Brexit tax).

3) ???
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Will brexit ruin the prices?
 
RX480/RX570/580 as a stop gap?

Considerably better than a rx550 although obviously not as good as a Vega/rx5700xt.

New you could get a rx570 for £120 or so, used you could probably get an rx580 for £70-£80, an rx570 or older rx480 for £50 or so.
 
Carl81 said:
Will brexit ruin the prices?
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Beats me :p I've described both the optimistic and pessimistic scenarios regarding that plus the same for AMD's upcoming graphics cards.

Armageus said:
RX480/RX570/580 as a stop gap?

Considerably better than a rx550 although obviously not as good as a Vega/rx5700xt.

New you could get a rx570 for £120 or so, used you could probably get an rx580 for £70-£80, an rx570 or older rx480 for £50 or so.
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Sounds a lot like going back to the GTX 970 performance I used to have - not a very alluring prospect and probably a bit of a dead zone performance wise.

For performance @3440x1440 100hz 60-100 fps I suspect I'm looking at:

RX 550:
WoW / WoW Classic - medium settings
GMDX Deus Ex / Deus Ex Revision
Other ancient Source engine type games (HL2/Vampire the Masquerade) - high

GTX 970/~RX 580:
Life is Strange - very high (aka bearable)
Tomb Raider (2013 reboot) at low-medium settings
GTA V low-medium settings

GTX 1070 Ti/Vega 56+:
XCOM 2 high settings
GTA V highish settings
Rise of the Tomb Raider / Shadow of the Tomb Raider medium settings

RX 5700 XT / 1080 Ti / 2060S / 2070 / 2070S:
???

2080 TI:
???
 
I'm a frame rate enthusiast it seems.

This time last year I was on a 60 hz display without any VRR. I went to 100hz, and instead of being satisfied with 40 fps freesynced as the ultimate level of smoothness some claimed, I instead became addicted to 75-100fps. Now I need more graphics card power to keep in that range.
 
I'll give you only the advice I give myself: buy the best thing you can right now, up to the budget you're comfortable with, and enjoy it. Time you wait is the time you aren't enjoying things, all to save a few £, which you aren't going to really save as AMD is just as happy to price things higher - so new Navi won't be all that cheaper than their Nvidia counterparts. Best thing for value is to buy quick & sell quick, that way you are only paying a "rent" fee of the difference between what you buy & sell the card, and the less time between those two transactions the better, all the while staying on top of the game. In the grand scheme of things it's not gonna be much money at all.

The only other thing I'd add is that 3440x1440 is quite hungry, especially above 60 fps. A Vega won't impress, especially after a 1070 ti.
 
Vexr said:
How's the TRIXX software doing? I have wondered if RIS could be a game changer in that downscaling resolution + RIS = the frame rate boost undoubtedly needed in some games until the ~4080 Ti :p I heard somewhere the TRIXX software could handle that RIS-downscaling-FPS trade off automatically.
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Dunno I have a red devil, but they are out of stock, and the pulse is a great card
 
Poneros said:
The only other thing I'd add is that 3440x1440 is quite hungry, especially above 60 fps. A Vega won't impress, especially after a 1070 ti.
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JediFragger said:
Nor will an XT imo. If you can force yourself to wait for big Navi then wait, but personally I'm expecting it next Summer along with RDNA 2.0 (Ray-tracing bandwagon)
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Yes, in my experience 3440x1440 at above 60 fps is calling for the nuclear option graphics card wise, unless its Destiny 2 or some other high FPS-on-a-potato game like Titanfall 2 (not sure I know entirely what I'm talking about - I know my 1070 Ti handled a couple of forgettable games at high/max 100 fps cap, and these names come to mind)

I'm cautiously optimistic having just started a new job that I will be in a better position to splurge money as time goes on (ignoring Brexit and focusing on my own personal circumstances, that is). Technically I could stake a significant sum on the Radeon VII or 2080S-2080Ti+ on finance, but somehow I think i'll regret that, as the NVidia cards don't have any guarantee they aren't borked in borderless fullscreen titles and the Radeon VII is a noisy over-memory-sized-mutant-overpriced-beast-that's not really got much over the 5700XT.
 
Vexr said:
I play at 3440x1440 ultrawide on a 100hz FreeSync monitor. I have a Ryzen 7 2700, 16 GB DDR4, and... an RX 550 2GB.

I did have a 1070 Ti, but GSync borderless fullscreen issues prompted me to sell it and use an RX 550 backup card instead. Because there's no news about that being fixed on NVidia cards, I'm unwilling to chance it with a GeForce card again.

So my options seem to be:

1) Stick with the RX 550 and only play WoW Classic (manages 60-90 fps at graphics setting 4/10 with high textures native res), until all is made right with the world and something like big Navi is released. Rumours say this could be within a few months, plus Brexit will be a non-issue, so panic buying now in fear of that would be definite grounds for regret.

2) Go for an RX 5700 XT. Brexit is coming, and when that happens there'll be hyperinflation and no one but the very well off in this country will be able to buy nice things like good graphics cards anymore, plus AMD won't be releasing any better graphics cards anyway for like 10 months, and then they'll be nearly matching NVidia for severe overpricing (+Brexit tax).

3) Middle ground - buy something like a used Vega 56 (pref under £200). My PC therefore won't be as crippled as it is now with an RX 550, though it won't really be hitting the sweet spot for performance at this resolution and refresh rate (the 1070 Ti didn't either).

4) ???
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Depends your budget. However 5700XT is fine for 3440x1440. Have a look here how it performs against the 5700 at 3440x1440

FYI the review uses the blower. AIB cards are better.

 
Panos said:
Depends your budget. However 5700XT is fine for 3440x1440. Have a look here how it performs against the 5700 at 3440x1440

FYI the review uses the blower. AIB cards are better.

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I found some of that soundtrack mesmerising, but am otherwise disappointed about how there's so little difference between the 5700 and 5700XT, and how far away both are from 100 fps at 3440x1440.
 
Vexr said:
3) Middle ground - buy something like a used Vega 56 (pref under £200). My PC therefore won't be as crippled as it is now with an RX 550, though it won't really be hitting the sweet spot for performance at this resolution and refresh rate (the 1070 Ti didn't either).
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If you're willing to refresh this page once a day eventually a Sapphire Pulse Vega 56 will show up for £180. Mine still had the covers on 3 of it's outputs and looked unused. If you're desperate for extra performance you can add a Vega 64 bios or just use power modding tools, which can hit 2070 levels of performance

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/clearance/graphics-cards


Plus the added benefit of an electric heater in the Brexit winter
 
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