Yewen said:
Well I won't be looking at it for long, the Viewsonic VX2025 will be for that!
Which one would you choose?
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Well I won't be looking at it for long, the Viewsonic VX2025 will be for that!
Really? What have you got now?
Does the Eclipse come with just a plain side panel if I don't get the one with the see through panel?
Good idea, i'll do just that. 
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I have to agree - I'd buy the side panel with the fan - you need to put a wooly jumper on your SLi cards to stop icicles foming on them!
And yes, I would take the YS-Techs as for £12 each them move upto 125cfm of air. At that they are 40dB. You can hear them! At 7v they are still moving 80cfm, but now they are pretty much inaudible (at least to my 38 year old ears!).
At 12V (and still £12) the Ambers are moving 45cfm, at 7V, which is quite widely recommended, and they're only moving 30cfm which is a lot less than the YS-Tech.
In the summer, you can still overclock your machine with the YS-Techs, that's much harder with the Ambers.
I would also recommend a good manual fan controller like the Noise Isolator PWM (Pulse Width Modulation) controller. As this is a PWM fan controller, not a variable voltage one, you can run the fans VERY slowly. PWM works by constantly turning the power to the fan on and off so it is possible to run the fans extremely slowly and still give them 12V. UK Mains works at between 220Hz and 240Hz so a fan rated at 125cfm/220Hz would still push 62.5cfm at 110Hz and 30cfm at 55Hz. Because most fans need 5V or 7V to start them and/or keep them ticking over, voltage based fan controllers can never drop below this level (about 50% so they can usually only ever slow a fan to 50% speed). Optimally, get yourself a T-Balancer, which is a fully automated PWM controller and does it all for you.
The key to a good quiet setup, in my opinion, is to get a set of powerful fans and run them slowly or intermittently. Let's say that my case is adequately cooled by 2 x 7V Akasa Ambers (30cfm each). Disregarding losses (which is naughty), I am moving 30cfm through the case. Two YS-Tech 125cfm fans running at 60Hz on a PWM controller will move that same amount of air and they will only be spinning at 700RPM! The Ambers will still be doing over 1000rpm. So, if I'm typing into Word the fans are quite often off, with the CPU fan providing adequate cooling and when playing BF2 the fans run harder and harder as the heat increases. As I'm wearing my headset (MEDIC!!!!) I can't hear them.
And yes, I would take the YS-Techs as for £12 each them move upto 125cfm of air. At that they are 40dB. You can hear them! At 7v they are still moving 80cfm, but now they are pretty much inaudible (at least to my 38 year old ears!).
At 12V (and still £12) the Ambers are moving 45cfm, at 7V, which is quite widely recommended, and they're only moving 30cfm which is a lot less than the YS-Tech.
In the summer, you can still overclock your machine with the YS-Techs, that's much harder with the Ambers.
I would also recommend a good manual fan controller like the Noise Isolator PWM (Pulse Width Modulation) controller. As this is a PWM fan controller, not a variable voltage one, you can run the fans VERY slowly. PWM works by constantly turning the power to the fan on and off so it is possible to run the fans extremely slowly and still give them 12V. UK Mains works at between 220Hz and 240Hz so a fan rated at 125cfm/220Hz would still push 62.5cfm at 110Hz and 30cfm at 55Hz. Because most fans need 5V or 7V to start them and/or keep them ticking over, voltage based fan controllers can never drop below this level (about 50% so they can usually only ever slow a fan to 50% speed). Optimally, get yourself a T-Balancer, which is a fully automated PWM controller and does it all for you.
The key to a good quiet setup, in my opinion, is to get a set of powerful fans and run them slowly or intermittently. Let's say that my case is adequately cooled by 2 x 7V Akasa Ambers (30cfm each). Disregarding losses (which is naughty), I am moving 30cfm through the case. Two YS-Tech 125cfm fans running at 60Hz on a PWM controller will move that same amount of air and they will only be spinning at 700RPM! The Ambers will still be doing over 1000rpm. So, if I'm typing into Word the fans are quite often off, with the CPU fan providing adequate cooling and when playing BF2 the fans run harder and harder as the heat increases. As I'm wearing my headset (MEDIC!!!!) I can't hear them.
Do OcUK stock exhaust fans? I'd like to put one at the back of the Eclipse.
WJA96 said:
If your using a T-Balancer then using Delta's is an option I would imagine.
I still stand by the Akasa Ambers, 7v just chucked in the case with no more thought are the cheapest way to get a quiet case for most people on the case fan side of things.
If you use a T-Balancer then having the fans just automatically blast on when needed is very handy, you could live with the 12v noise for 10 seconds every hour.
I see your point with airflow being a lot higher, and I would probably agree with you if your using the stock GFX and CPU coolers and are not really bothered about the noise to go for something more beefy than the Ambers, just the Ambers for me are the cheapest fan I can find silent at 1m away in my case; they seem well received by other people too.
If your not anal about needing proper silence and just want a proper normal PC then I would imagine especially in the eclipse the YS-Tech fans would pair up well.
I have a pile of 80mm YS-Tech fans that push silly air, I replaced my Delta's with them in my Scorpio about three years ago and they have all started making grinding noises.
(Not the fans fault really, they have been through a lot of the 'ooo stick a pen in the fan to dust it while its still on' sort of abuse.)
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Yewen said:
Agreed. I'm just a cooling nutter!