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Which RTX 2080 ti to purchase?

billys

billys

billys

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Hi Guys,



I'm looking at upgrading the ROG strix 1080ti in my current system to a 2080ti. I know there is a lot of talk on the cooling and failure rates atm so i;m trying to avoid that and get a card that isn't having any problems at the moment.



I would also like it to be suitable for water cooling as it will probably go down that path in the near future.






Is the ROG strix OC still the best card to get? Or does it not matter to much since I will be water cooling it soon?



Thanks for any help!
 
billys said:
Hi Guys,

I'm looking at upgrading the ROG strix 1080ti in my current system to a 2080ti. I know there is a lot of talk on the cooling and failure rates atm so i;m trying to avoid that and get a card that isn't having any problems at the moment.



I would also like it to be suitable for water cooling as it will probably go down that path in the near future.






Is the ROG strix OC still the best card to get? Or does it not matter to much since I will be water cooling it soon?



Thanks for any help!
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I'm not sure what happened in here but the mods have been busy.

At this point in time I would hold off buying anything RTX until Nvidia and it's partners have worked out the problem plagueing current cards.

If you're water cooling it be sure to pick a card that has a compatible PCB with the water block you want to use, Strix cards and what not maybe using non reference designs and get the cheapest one.
 
Personally I'd be wary of buying a 20xx series card right now, seems like too many failures to be a comfortable purchase.

Who know how far down the line something could let go in the cards if there's an inherent design flaw.
 
Kelt said:
Personally I'd be wary of buying a 20xx series card right now, seems like too many failures to be a comfortable purchase.

Who know how far down the line something could let go in the cards if there's an inherent design flaw.
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From what I've seen I'd wager the issue is due to the use DDR6, artifacting is normally the result of bad memory and given how new it is it's not beyond vthe realms of possibility for a bad batch to have made it's way onto the first production run of RTX cards. Even still though I wouldn't touch anything in the 2000 series until this is resolved.
 
Stick with the 1080Ti until the 7nm cards arrive. The current 20 series is aimed at developers and professionals.
 
So far the Zotac 2080TI triple fan card I have seems to be behaving...not spontaneously combusted..hottest its got is about 63 degrees, so while its about 10 degs higher than my old GTX970, the jump in performance and raw power is staggering (its pushing out 4k at silky smooth rates) so I cant complain (apart from the huge gaping wound it left in my savings account!)
 
Surprisingly one of the better coolers, is the Palit Dual and Gaming Pro OC, both use same identical cooler, except dual has no backplate, only difference, but its a quiet yet good performing cooler, also seeing no abnormal return rates, Palit is our best seller for obvious reasons as been in stock always, free shipping and the cheapest.

The Strix and Zotac Extreme have absolute best cooling performance, typically under 70c under load.
The Zotac Extreme is the fastest 2080Ti on market out the box, boost clock of 1815MHz, but our sample boost over 2000MHz stock, they also have a memory clock of 14,400MHz to further boost performance.

Also like the Palit card, the MSI Ventus cooler also performs well and is quiet too, around mid 70's under load, high 60's in good air flow case.

Gainward coolers are also great, similar to the Palit.


Though the expensive cards are nice, I really can't say they are worth the extra, unless its an AIO or waterblocked card, which of course offer quite an advantage cooling and noise wise.
 
Gibbo said:
Surprisingly one of the better coolers, is the Palit Dual and Gaming Pro OC, both use same identical cooler, except dual has no backplate, only difference, but its a quiet yet good performing cooler, also seeing no abnormal return rates, Palit is our best seller for obvious reasons as been in stock always, free shipping and the cheapest.

The Strix and Zotac Extreme have absolute best cooling performance, typically under 70c under load.
The Zotac Extreme is the fastest 2080Ti on market out the box, boost clock of 1815MHz, but our sample boost over 2000MHz stock, they also have a memory clock of 14,400MHz to further boost performance.

Also like the Palit card, the MSI Ventus cooler also performs well and is quiet too, around mid 70's under load, high 60's in good air flow case.

Gainward coolers are also great, similar to the Palit.


Though the expensive cards are nice, I really can't say they are worth the extra, unless its an AIO or waterblocked card, which of course offer quite an advantage cooling and noise wise.
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No mention of the "perfected" aorus card? :eek:

Understandable, that turned out to be a bit of a pos it has to be said.
 
billys said:
Hi Guys,

I'm looking at upgrading the ROG strix 1080ti in my current system to a 2080ti. I know there is a lot of talk on the cooling and failure rates atm so i;m trying to avoid that and get a card that isn't having any problems at the moment.

I would also like it to be suitable for water cooling as it will probably go down that path in the near future.

Is the ROG strix OC still the best card to get? Or does it not matter to much since I will be water cooling it soon?

Thanks for any help!
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Firstly the ROG STRIX 2080ti OC is £1,500 and there are other options depending on brand preferences. The Gigabyte Aorus Xtreme has the beautiful RGB fans, the ZOTAC AMP Extreme is a great card, but the Inno3D Cards (PNY Brand) have always been great for me and there is even a version with a 240mm AIO known as the Black Edition.

Reviews have shown that that generally the OC cards using the TU102A die (where “A” signifies a binned chip) have little overclocking headroom. If you are going to put an aftermarket waterblock on the card the Strix version seems a waste. The main thing to look for is ability to PROPERLY modify the power limit in the BIOS and EVGA seem to have a lead here.

I personally would wait as the RTX2080ti isn’t going to give you anything amazing over your existing 1080ti unless you have a 4K 144Hz display, realistically 120Hz, and that’s another £2K+. To get really strong 4K gaming you are best off waiting until after CES2019 to see if monitors come down in price, otherwise you’re talking £3,500.

I was underwhelmed by the RTX2080ti at launch and even more so now the first RTX benchmarks are released for Battlefield V, DLSS early reviews are equally underwhelming. This is from someone that was going to upgrade and is now going to wait until the next generation on 7nm.
 
Gerard said:
No mention of the "perfected" aorus card? :eek:

Understandable, that turned out to be a bit of a pos it has to be said.
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Its cooler does not perform as well, as to why its a bit unknown, its big, three fans, all I can think of is maybe because of the overclock on the card causes it to run hotter. The Palit cards are clocked quite a bit lower by comparison as are MSI Ventus cards.

But in the big boy coolers, Strix and AMP Extreme are the performance leaders unless you go AIO or waterblock.

Where the Aorus does win is on eye candy, its hands down the best looking card of them all, at the expense of running hotter and thus louder.
 
Gibbo said:
Its cooler does not perform as well, as to why its a bit unknown, its big, three fans, all I can think of is maybe because of the overclock on the card causes it to run hotter. The Palit cards are clocked quite a bit lower by comparison as are MSI Ventus cards.

But in the big boy coolers, Strix and AMP Extreme are the performance leaders unless you go AIO or waterblock.

Where the Aorus does win is on eye candy, its hands down the best looking card of them all, at the expense of running hotter and thus louder.
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I liked my arous but I can’t have a faulty card .
 
Gibbo said:
Its cooler does not perform as well, as to why its a bit unknown, its big, three fans, all I can think of is maybe because of the overclock on the card causes it to run hotter. The Palit cards are clocked quite a bit lower by comparison as are MSI Ventus cards.

But in the big boy coolers, Strix and AMP Extreme are the performance leaders unless you go AIO or waterblock.

Where the Aorus does win is on eye candy, its hands down the best looking card of them all, at the expense of running hotter and thus louder.
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The heatsink itself is the same as the one they used on their 1080ti aorus, they didn't account for turing's increased heat. Other companies like asus increased the size of their coolers heatsink. Imo they got lazy and just recycled the same heatsink and slapped some led fans on it as a selling point. Kitguru reviewed the 2080 aorus and it was the loudest turing card they had tested.

As for the fans, really its more like 2.5 fans, that middle one is like a fan skeleton. In fact if you look at the shroud the overlapping fan gimmick is taking up space in the shroud that could have went to making the heatsink larger, had they just went with a windforce style fan setup they would have had space to add a larger heatsink.
 
The coolers on my FTW3 cards are huge triple slot jobs but run really cool even in SLI.

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Gerard said:
Most of the vendors seem to have upped the sizes of their heatsink, gigabyte thought "nah" and produced a flashy turd.
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2080 Ti cards draw a lot of watts when overclocked, any vendor cutting corners on their coolers are asking for problems.

I measured my 7980XE and 2080 Ti SLI setup when I was overclocking it and at times it was pulling more than 1200 watts at the wall.:eek:
 
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