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which socket is best for futureproofing?
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well it depends which u prefer Intel or AMD , bcuz Intel plans to release i9 a 6 core/12 threads processor on 1366 socket , but on the other hand AMD plans to release AMD “Thuban” Six-Core Desktop Processor , its desktop version of AMD's server CPU "Istanbul" , it wil hav support for AM3 socket, so its upto u which u prefer
cheers for the quick response, basically I want to be able to buy a motherboard a know that it will support the very top-end cpus for lets say 2-3 years at least, which socket is this most realistic with?
I mean 1156 and 1366, surely one of them is going to die before the other, which one will taht be?
Just because i9 will be S1366 doesn't mean it will work with current motherboards.
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lets be fair am3 amd wins hands down for not making buy new mobos every time a cpu comes out. However for once agree with jon you cant future proof but you can make the socket serve you longer 
I disagree tbh, a good quality psu and case can last for ages. When I say futureproof with regard to mobo/cpu i mean; a graphics card can be very easily replaced, so can psu/ram/hd etc... but a mobo/cpu + oem windows (imo) is a real pain to replace. Ideally I want to buy a high quality cpu/mobo and know that in a year or two I can just upgrade the cpu to keep up with the inevitable gpu upgrade.
Thats interesting i never really considered that,
I'll expand then, as I suspect we agree really.
Case is something that can be bought to last, my omega has made it through a few builds and will survive everything until I make a case myself. Even then I'm keeping it in the loft.
PSU is similar, if you buy a particularly nails one. I've got a pc p&c which is warranted for 7 years so really shouldn't expire any time soon. Hard drives tend to last until full, so these survive multiple builds too.
However processor/motherboard/ram evolves swiftly. I'm including ram since when it isn't changing generation it's increasing speed. Intel are particularly keen on forcing motherboard upgrades, but since I use Intel I tend to focus on this. If the hardware is more than 3 years old or so, you're probably upgrading board, cpu and ram together anyway.
So, no Intel 'socket' is best for future proofing since they all go obsolete fairly swiftly. AMD has a better case here thanks to maintaining backwards compatibility, but even then I'm not convinced they make sense for future proofing.
The future is uncertain, the best you can say is if you buy one which is really fast now it'll be quite good in a few years, and if you buy a really cheap and nasty one now it'll only be more so in a few years.
Case is something that can be bought to last, my omega has made it through a few builds and will survive everything until I make a case myself. Even then I'm keeping it in the loft.
PSU is similar, if you buy a particularly nails one. I've got a pc p&c which is warranted for 7 years so really shouldn't expire any time soon. Hard drives tend to last until full, so these survive multiple builds too.
However processor/motherboard/ram evolves swiftly. I'm including ram since when it isn't changing generation it's increasing speed. Intel are particularly keen on forcing motherboard upgrades, but since I use Intel I tend to focus on this. If the hardware is more than 3 years old or so, you're probably upgrading board, cpu and ram together anyway.
So, no Intel 'socket' is best for future proofing since they all go obsolete fairly swiftly. AMD has a better case here thanks to maintaining backwards compatibility, but even then I'm not convinced they make sense for future proofing.
The future is uncertain, the best you can say is if you buy one which is really fast now it'll be quite good in a few years, and if you buy a really cheap and nasty one now it'll only be more so in a few years.
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What do you do with your PC? Just wanting to see whether you really need anything more than a GPU upgrade every now and again (AM3 or i5), or whether you run loads of highly CPU intensive multithreaded apps (i7), and could do with moving to i9 when it comes out.
TBH, if it's not the latter, I'd be tempted to go with something like i5 or i7 and just make sure you get a board that will overclock well enough that you're not going to see a CPU limitation for the foreseeable future. Unfortunately, as has been mentioned, future-proofing any kind of platform can be difficult...
TBH, if it's not the latter, I'd be tempted to go with something like i5 or i7 and just make sure you get a board that will overclock well enough that you're not going to see a CPU limitation for the foreseeable future. Unfortunately, as has been mentioned, future-proofing any kind of platform can be difficult...
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AM3 should last quite a while to be fair.
It has to be 1336 for me.
But having said that, so much depends on the m/board manufacturers, because it is the m/board which in the end, gets the most from your chip.
And of course intel are the leader chips, so their features are supported better by the m/boards.
IE, oveclockability, heat generated, power consumption, no' of cores etc.
But having said that, so much depends on the m/board manufacturers, because it is the m/board which in the end, gets the most from your chip.
And of course intel are the leader chips, so their features are supported better by the m/boards.
IE, oveclockability, heat generated, power consumption, no' of cores etc.
No socket is futureproof.
It's not just the socket you need to worry about it is also the chipset.
For example there are millions of boards out there with socket 775.
How many of them can take 45nm quads ?
Sure the later ones can but what if your board is a few years old.
Many were produced in the P4 era.
Just because a CPU physically fits in a socket doesn't mean it's going to work.
Looking at what is currently available 1366 would appear to have the most life expectancy.
Doesn't mean that you can buy a board with a 1366 socket now and expect to keep on upgrading the CPU though.
At some point the chipset will become a limitation, as will the voltage regulation circuitry.
It's not just the socket you need to worry about it is also the chipset.
For example there are millions of boards out there with socket 775.
How many of them can take 45nm quads ?
Sure the later ones can but what if your board is a few years old.
Many were produced in the P4 era.
Just because a CPU physically fits in a socket doesn't mean it's going to work.
Looking at what is currently available 1366 would appear to have the most life expectancy.
Doesn't mean that you can buy a board with a 1366 socket now and expect to keep on upgrading the CPU though.
At some point the chipset will become a limitation, as will the voltage regulation circuitry.
Im am inclined to say/think the 1156 platform. ?
why you may ask , Well with regards to 1366 the only new things im hearing from people is the i9 6core CPU. There is no news with regards to new 1366 quads. From my knowledge anyway. The i9 will be extremely high in price too. Most , including me will not be able to afford the upgrade even if we could.
Therefore with 1156 seemingly being Intel's main mid-high desktop range this is the high possibility you will see new quads along the line. Keeping your options at the highest level for future upgrade.
That's my perception anyway.
why you may ask , Well with regards to 1366 the only new things im hearing from people is the i9 6core CPU. There is no news with regards to new 1366 quads. From my knowledge anyway. The i9 will be extremely high in price too. Most , including me will not be able to afford the upgrade even if we could.
Therefore with 1156 seemingly being Intel's main mid-high desktop range this is the high possibility you will see new quads along the line. Keeping your options at the highest level for future upgrade.
That's my perception anyway.
big thanks for all the help guys, honestly thouhg I am still totally undecided,
am3 is appealing as it is so cheap and you start off with a high clock, also as others have said amd are less prone to forcing socket upgrades.
1156 looks nice as it seems to offer nehalem gaming performance at cheaper price, doesnt seem ot be as good an overclocker according ot the i5 oc thread, but if you are not prone to oc'ing then it could be a good choice as the turbo mode seems to be more effective on the lynnfiel, also as Mcstylist says being intels mainstream quad socket it should last a while
then you have nehalem, surely the top of the line most expensive and highest perfoming should last longest but as some have said, just because new cpus are destined for 1366 doesnt mean current 1366 boards will be able to utilise them.
Oh bloody hell i have a serious headache
am3 is appealing as it is so cheap and you start off with a high clock, also as others have said amd are less prone to forcing socket upgrades.
1156 looks nice as it seems to offer nehalem gaming performance at cheaper price, doesnt seem ot be as good an overclocker according ot the i5 oc thread, but if you are not prone to oc'ing then it could be a good choice as the turbo mode seems to be more effective on the lynnfiel, also as Mcstylist says being intels mainstream quad socket it should last a while
then you have nehalem, surely the top of the line most expensive and highest perfoming should last longest but as some have said, just because new cpus are destined for 1366 doesnt mean current 1366 boards will be able to utilise them.
Oh bloody hell i have a serious headache