Which Vista?

[iCraig]

1. Detect a lot if not all hardware out of the box

So does XP. Legacy hardware isn't supported by Vista. For instance my Canon digital camera was not recognised in Vista, but in XP it was.

2. Much faster install time

Inconclusive as XP takes ~25 minutes to install on my machine and Vista took around the same time. However the setup was easier on Vista, I'll admit that, but not a major selling point.

3. Readyboost for those who cannot afford a hardware upgrade at this point

Granted, decent feature. However it wouldn't sell me the OS.

4. A new UI

Why's that a positive aspect? Surely that's subjective. I love XP's folder layout and infact found Vista's annoying. It kept forgetting my folder view settings.

5. A more "user friendly" way of changing system options (which I think sucks, but I am sure people who are less technologically savvy will like it)

Subjective again. In general XP's default control panel is similar to Vista's anyway.

6. Things are less cluttered, but this really comes under the new UI

I don't know what less cluttered means. My XP system is neatly organised, defragged and responsive. It's easy to keep the PC tidy with XP.

7. A more intuitive way of managing things

Like?

8. DX10

Why's that a positive aspect for upgrading now? That'll only be useful when it's utilised.

9. A more refined and simpler way of updating

Updating what?

10. A hassle free way of maintaining you computer, as a lot of things which were previously had to be run by the user are now moved into the background and run automatically.

Such as? I can set things to automatically run on XP. You know, task scheduler?

11. A more efficient memory management system

Granted. I'll concede on that. However I'd like to see how effective it actually is. 3ms faster opening Microsoft Word isn't something that's going to excite me.

 

[iCraig]

I will tell you once more i am feed up of going over the same ground.

Why is it so hard to list these unique Vista aspects you bang on about? If they're so prominent to you, why not just say a few?

There are loads of unique positives about vista that are covered time & time again that i will not go over again every time someone asks me to because they are to lazy or arrogant to see what i & others have written in the past when they claim its important for them to know why when in all likeness that its about personal preference to whether something is seen as a positive or not & could and up arguing all day about it.
The fact that you have to ask me says you have no clue of vista is about what's so ever.

That's lovely, but I'm asking you. You told me that Vista can do things XP can't. I've asked for examples. You've provided none. Instead you've told me to go look at other peoples' subjective opinions on Vista.

Vista has some great features and is a great OS, however if XP does everything you need right now, there isn't much of a reason to upgrade.

I'm on XP, you're on Vista. You're not doing anything I can't right now. I'm willing to admit that you will one day. DX10 for instance. I had a discussion with dirtydog not long ago about how Vista will be the next XP, however, I think me and him pretty much agree, that right now, if your XP system does what you need, there's no real reason to jump to Vista. There's no reason why not either, if you get what I mean, but it's not like XP users are missing out on anything yet

 

[Final8y]

Same on xp, pretty much all intel and nforce chipsets are compatible, and some via too, SiS and other via's need a new install sometimes though.

I went from Intel 875p to Nforce 4 Sli 32x intel edition to Intel 945p, no problems in xp...

Dad has an hdd that has booted on about 20 different nforce and intel chipsets and some via's ( ranging from intel 845 to 975x, Nforce 2-5, and some 1 via board.).

Well when i tried it with XPPro it would not work.
Had to fresh install for all 3 mobos that i was testing.

 

[Final8y]

Why is it so hard to list these unique Vista aspects you bang on about? If they're so prominent to you, why not just say a few?

In this very thread people have pointed some of them out & yet your still asking.

 

[Final8y]

Why is it so hard to list these unique Vista aspects you bang on about? If they're so prominent to you, why not just say a few?



That's lovely, but I'm asking you. You told me that Vista can do things XP can't. I've asked for examples. You've provided none. Instead you've told me to go look at other peoples' subjective opinions on Vista.

Vista has some great features and is a great OS, however if XP does everything you need right now, there isn't much of a reason to upgrade.

I'm on XP, you're on Vista. You're not doing anything I can't right now. I'm willing to admit that you will one day. DX10 for instance. I had a discussion with dirtydog not long ago about how Vista will be the next XP, however, I think me and him pretty much agree, that right now, if your XP system does what you need, there's no real reason to jump to Vista. There's no reason why not either, if you get what I mean, but it's not like XP users are missing out on anything yet

1 I don't have to answer to you.
2 I don't care what you & dirtydog(a well known for not likening vista) think of vista & the differences that you think are prominent, maybe you should have also talked long to NathanE who likes vista & then you would have both side of the story to work with.
3 My post was not a reply to you in the first place, so no i did not tell YOU that vista can do things that xp cant.
3.5 Needing me to personally list some of the differences when others have already mention them is being picky & stupid just so you can argue the points some more & say you can get all that OS functionality with 3rd party software witch i try to avoid as much as i can.
4 I don't have to prove anything that i find more useful to me just because you asked because who the hell are you.
5 My post history is in my profile so you can see what i find good about vista.
6 If you don't know for yourself what vista can do out of the box besides 3DGUI accelerated GUI & DX10 then your just wasting my time.
7 I will not reply to you any more on this subject.

 

[fumbles]

BLAH

Yeah I think you correct when you are agreeing with me, otherwise you are totally wrong... fool!

Its all good, I didnt meant it... somewhat

 

[iCraig]

1 I don't have to answer to you.

I know you don't, and I will not pressure you for a response if you do not wish to give one. However you did say something that provoked my response. Why come to an internet discussion board and claim something if you do not like people asking you about it?

2 I don't care what you & dirtydog(a well known for not likening vista) think of vista & the differences that you think are prominent, maybe you should have also talked long to NathanE who likes vista & then you would have both side of the story to work with.

I've spoken to plenty of people about Vista. From those who irrationally hate it, and those who pleasure themselves with the hole in the centre of the disc.

3 My post was not a reply to you in the first place, so no i did not tell YOU that vista can do things that xp cant.

I didn't realise your posts are exclusive to one person. It's pretty much standard forum practice to discuss things with several people within a thread.

3.5 Needing me to personally list some of the differences when others have already mention them is being picky & stupid just so you can argue the points some more & say you can get all that OS functionality with 3rd party software witch i try to avoid as much as i can.

You simply stated that Vista does things for you XP can't, so you'll never go back. This interested me as what those were, I also obviously made the mistake that somebody who announced that so confidently couldn't actually mention one thing.

4 I don't have to prove anything that i find more useful to me just because you asked because who the hell are you.

I know you don't, but I have no idea why you're getting so uptight about somebody asking a rather simple question. I apologise if I flustered and annoyed you in the process of actually trying to find something Vista can do for you which XP can't.

5 My post history is in my profile so you can see what i find good about vista.

That's great, but I didn't ask what you found good about Vista. There are 100s of cool things about Vista. However I'm yet to find someone who uses Vista for something that they can't do on XP. So when you announced you did, I simply enquired what it was.

6 If you don't know for yourself what vista can do out of the box besides 3DGUI accelerated GUI & DX10 then your just wasting my time.

I know Vista's features quite well, however they're not something totally a million miles away from XP are they? My question to you, who claimed Vista allowed you to do things XP could not, was just asking for an example. I know one such answer soon will be, "I can play DX10 games." But right now, I can't think of anything, hence why I simply asked.

7 I will not reply to you any more on this subject.

OK.

 

[bledd]

might as well buy vista for now, try it out, don't activate it until you have to, if it works fine with current drivers then keep using it, if it doesn't, then revert to xp and keep your vista copy ready until better drivers come out

 

[iCraig]

might as well buy vista for now, try it out, don't activate it until you have to, if it works fine with current drivers then keep using it, if it doesn't, then revert to xp and keep your vista copy ready until better drivers come out

That's my stance at the moment. Got Vista Ultimate on my shelf, but waiting until SP1, a bug free version of Ultramon and better ATi drivers.