Yes there are many rumours for a 2013 release date for GTA5. Yet i'm still pretty sure it will be 2012. No idea why? But 5 years from 2007, and the Rage engine being used on Max Payne.... Does it point to 2012? I'd say yes. Yet maybye the likes of FC3 and Bioshock being delayed until 2013 points at a 2012 release date for GTA5 in time for christmas?