who would have been in the right with this?

helpimcrap

helpimcrap

helpimcrap

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my first solo day driving and it was pretty eventful. nearly smashed a car up 3 days after having it lol.

just so i know.......

guy pulls out and i have to slow from 40 to 20 pretty sharpish as he didn't seem to accelerate at all! gotes in a roundabout with 3 lanes. 2 exits for a motorway entry and 2 exits for A5/wolvey road. anyways twonk pulls into inside lane to go around roundabout and i pull into middle lane to go down A5. twonk realizes he's in wrong lane and pulls across forcing me to avoid him and move into next lane. all this twonk is on phone it appears. should he have waited until i went by seeing as he was in wrong lane then rejoined or was it his right to be forceful and move anyway as indicator seems to give a right of passage lol?
 
The fact that said twonk was on the blower at the time and then pulls out in front of you means he's in the wrong surely.
 
oldbag said:
The fact that said twonk was on the blower at the time and then pulls out in front of you means he's in the wrong surely.
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i have no idea what the rights are regarding being in the wrong lane etc. should i have slowed and let him in or does he have to give way to traffic first then join etc?:)
 
Sounds like he wasn't driving with due care and attention - too busy on the phone and realised at the last second he was in the wrong lane, didn't look and just pulled right out.
 
He'd have been in the wrong, thats pretty obvious IMO

A good lesson in creating enough space around you if nothing else
 
yeah it's down to him first off to make sure he has enough room to pull out and accelerate without inconveniencing other road users, and second to keep to his lane and not cut other drivers up. Hope you gave him a good honking.
Personally if someone cut me up or otherwise annoyed me by their driving, while talking on the phone, I'd be very tempted to get their plates and phone the police, though I doubt it'd achieve all that much..
 
nokinidea said:
Should have rammed the twonk and told him to get the **** off the phone
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lol, or simply avoid situations like that, try to expect mistakes like that and leave enough room and keep paying attention at all times. No need to road rage ram him, even if he was on the phone...
 
I think he was in the wrong and would have been inclined to drive over him, alas, such antics are no good on a bike I suppose.......
 
Simple rule is that you should never make a manuver that causes someone else to unduly change thier speed or direction. So in this case he was clearly wrong.

However, expect everyone else on the road to be utter prats and do the unexpected - defensive driving is a good skill to learn. I.e.

On my advanced driving course it was pointed out that a lot of inexperienced drivers will move right over to the kerb when pressured by an aggressive driver. This is not the right thing to do. It gives the aggressive driver the impression there is more room than there really is and may encourage them to do something stupid. What you should do is place your car smack bang in the middle of the lane, thereby not even giving the other driver the impression they have plenty of room to do something daft. On top of that, still be ready to react if the driver still acts like a numpty.

Try and create an area of space around your car as a buffer zone - that means not hanging on to a another drivers blind spot - give both of you plenty of room. Then if they move over without looking, they move into the space you had left empty, not where your car is!

Too many people drive with the attitude "he's not getting into that space in front of me, that's my space!" and then close the gap up. Who gives a **** if the guy that's just screamed up beside you gets in front of you? Let him go on his merry way to oblivion - you're best off being nowhere near the prat, rather than fighting over 20sq ft of tarmac with him.
 
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Second the above, you need to learn to expect people to do stupid things and give them room to do it, basic motorcycle training at its best. Its all very well wagging your finger from the side of you road next your mangled car about who is right or wrong but if you make the space for them to be stupid and they take it you get the benefit of car with no dents.
 
He was probably in the wrong, but with 3 days driving experience you are hardly in a good position to judge as i dont want to pee on your parade but i shouldnt think you are all that hot yourself. Put it down to experience and read your highway code again for good measure :)
 
helpimcrap said:
guy pulls out and i have to slow from 40 to 20 pretty sharpish as he didn't seem to accelerate at all!
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For just the above even though the guy is in the wrong I personally think if there had been an accident as you would have most probably hit him from behind you'd have a hard time getting the insurance company to take your side, 50-50 at best, your fault at worst.
 
cheers for he replies guys, i admit i'm not that hot at driving and if anything my main concern is being overly cautious with it due to nerves.
 
Hey Dan, I know the junction well M69 / A5 and I know the people who designed it. He was definately in the wrong lane. Don't worry about it too much get you confidence on the road back up although not in the rain at the momen =/

Aero
 
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