Who's to blame for higher prices?

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Covid? Miners? Working from home?

One of the AdoredTV members on a recent podcast said that Nvidia and AMD had no control over the prices, and that their MSRPs weren't based on anything. So it was the AIBs (Gigabyte, MSI, Asus, etc.) that chose to jack up prices. But LinusTechTips on a recent Wan Show said that Nvidia and AMD were hiding behind their AIBs, forcing them to take the flak. Anyone who spoke out was under risk of not receiving chips. So they seem to contradict each other.

I heard the argument that AIBs are middlemen, hence why CPUs aren't as jacked up as GPU prices, since they go straight to the customer. But Linus a year ago said there was an increased cost of packaging the chips, in particular the non-lithography processes that haven't expanded to reach the new demand. The Adored podcast also said components like memory went up 10x in prices, and I read here that recent events may push up the lack of raw materials even further.

Take the PS5/XSX. They're selling in record numbers, but Sony/MS aren't reaping the rewards as they locked in their prices at $499. So scalpers must be to blame for the higher prices and lack of availability. On the other hand, you can't scalp a car. I read in the Economist that cars cancelled bookings for chips because they thought everyone staying home would reduce demand. When needed again, the fabs were already booked. So it seems there are multiple reasons per industry.

Which reason lines up most with GPUs going for £300 over their value? Nvidia/AMD, AIBs, or the stores themselves? And why stop at £300 when anything but a 6500XT files off the shelves at any price? What's a good source to learn about this stuff?

Apologies if in the wrong place. Didn't think it fit in general discussion.
 
MLID did an analysis in one of his videos and there's no debate that costs are up, components, manufacturing and shipping. Covid and working from home, did have a big impact on these three things.

Demand from miners (and scalpers taking advantage of the shortage) are primarily what I'd blame though, for the following reasons:
- For the last few years, graphics cards were not priced for gaming performance, but for mining performance. This is still somewhat evident on the used market, despite newer models being available now.
- Better availability for graphics cards that could not mine, or mined poorly (< 6GB), albeit they were still overpriced.
- Lower mining demand when btc/eth falls, always leads to more stock and lower prices (rn many miners have started selling and demand is lower due to eth going POS and hey presto, graphics cards are everywhere and prices falling).
- CPU prices have not been elevated and stock is great (limited mining opportunities), but low-end CPUs (used for mining systems) were consistently unavailable during the boom.
- Motherboard prices are up due to costs, but stock has been good.

RE: PS5, Console demand has been higher partly because PCs have been too expensive to build.
 
MLID did an analysis in one of his videos and there's no debate that costs are up, components, manufacturing and shipping. Covid and working from home, did have a big impact on these three things.
Is that the one on AMD's fake pricing? Haven't seen it, just searched it now. I'd say the Adored team (want to distinguish between Jim and the team he works with) fell for AMD's trap, but to be fair, their podcast came out much later than the 2 weeks ago MLID's video came out.
 
Is that the one on AMD's fake pricing? Haven't seen it, just searched it now. I'd say the Adored team (want to distinguish between Jim and the team he works with) fell for AMD's trap, but to be fair, their podcast came out much later than the 2 weeks ago MLID's video came out.

I can't remember I'm afraid, it was relating to the 6500 XT and he took publicly available information to work out how much more expensive it was to produce than previous cards. His figures were that the 6500 XT is not more expensive (to buy), relatively (to previous cards), due to the increased costs to AMD/AIBs. But, I think that was assuming you can get one at the launch price, which was about 10-15% cheaper than it is now.
 
Ordinarily I'd blame the Americans but I think we should all pile on to the Russians as responsible for ALL evils these days!

really though when it comes to GPU's it the mining that is the problem.

Apparently with a supposed reduction in bitcoin and etherium values (I know nothing about this just what I've heard) the demand for GPUs for mining is accordingly reduced which will increase supply for us real people :) and therefore see prices ease.
 
Worth throwing shareholders/investors into the mix also, always wanting more.

Taiwan had issues with water supply and were shipping in water for manufacturing IIRC.

Plus everything else mentioned.
 
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