Why are Intel stock cooler so poor

Geffen · 22 Jul 2015 at 05:44

I've just moved from a FX6300 to a intel I5 4680K and surprised how poor intel stock cooler is. I was able to keep the AMD processor cool and quite at stock even though it has higher energy usage and I'd modded the fan to a lower voltage. Meanwhile the intel cooler seems to be struggling, at load, to keep the CPU temperature under control even at stock speed, and it makes a racket when doing this.

Glad I've order a new heatsink.

passey89 · 22 Jul 2015 at 07:11

Check voltage on devils canyon lots of mobos over volt to 1.3 at stock which is way too high.

The stock cooler should be ok at stock speeds

new boy · 22 Jul 2015 at 08:37

Cos $

mnc fear · 22 Jul 2015 at 10:07

You would think with the premium they charge they would put in a better Heatsink- agreed

MasterOC · 22 Jul 2015 at 10:31

That "premium" is what you pay for the best CPU in the segmant . It's there to get the job done , no more , no less . The AMD fans on my 955be , 6100 and 8320 were no better .

Bart_Hunt · 22 Jul 2015 at 12:44

Well, I never used a stock cooler with any of my Ks. I consider a stock cooler a very basic option and not designed for overclocking at all.
Most of the time I used Prolimatech Megahalems (best air cooler ever), before going for custom loop.

JasonM · 22 Jul 2015 at 13:01

If they put a better cooler the retail package would cost more. Then people overclocking would still change the stock cooler.

mmj_uk · 22 Jul 2015 at 16:29

I thought it was the other way around myself, Intel heatsinks are quiet and do what's needed.. all of the AMD stock heatsinks I've had sounded like chainsaws.

Killer7xx · 22 Jul 2015 at 18:15

The Intel heatsinks are just dirt cheap and are just there to provide some form of cooling. At stock speeds it's not so bad at times, but if you overclock or use CPU intensive applications then you must get a 3rd party cooler.

MrMD · 22 Jul 2015 at 18:19

The bigger crime is the the tim between the die and the heatspreader.At the very least you would think they would go for solder on the K chips,considering the price they charge for them.

(On mainstream socket that is,not x99)

mnc fear · 22 Jul 2015 at 20:21

Both companies coolers are awful not just Intel

ukxenon · 22 Jul 2015 at 21:15

To keep costs down and profits up

Geffen · 23 Jul 2015 at 06:14

I understand stock cooler are meant to be cheap and therefore not very good. It just seemed odd that AMD stock cooler was able to keep my FX6300 cool and quite even with a minor overclock while the more energy efficient intel cooler, gets hot an makes a racket at stock when under load.

I have checked the voltage of the CPU 1.10

FrankJH · 23 Jul 2015 at 06:23

Given the amount Intel would be buying/sourcing in parts I cant actually imagine the price of the cooler being any different at all.

Just like the tim lately, its just them being lazy

elmarko · 23 Jul 2015 at 10:13

Really there is no excuse, a stock cooler should be able to keep a CPU cool enough at stock speeds (That includes the higher end CPU's) a few extra $$$ it would make sense, just a higher grade stock cooler - like many GPU's offer on top end cards.

implosiveturnip · 23 Jul 2015 at 10:44

Geffen said:
I understand stock cooler are meant to be cheap and therefore not very good. It just seemed odd that AMD stock cooler was able to keep my FX6300 cool and quite even with a minor overclock while the more energy efficient intel cooler, gets hot an makes a racket at stock when under load.

I have checked the voltage of the CPU 1.10

Try re-mounting it. I personally have never had a loud or hot experience runnning a stock intel cpu on the stock cooler, even my 3770k. I had to rma the h80 I originally had on it, and put the cpu back to stock and used the stock cooler - it was fine.

A friend of mine just got the same chip as you, and his barley goes over 55c at full load on the stock cooler, and it's not loud eithert; not like the fan is going full belt to keep temps down. How's your case airflow?

thebennyboy · 23 Jul 2015 at 11:29

I have to unclock/undervolt my CPU to 4.0Ghz 1.008v just to keeps my temps under control. Tried replacing the TIM on the cooler which made no difference, definitely the cooler as my Triton kept the temps well under control even overclocked. The stock cooler i got with my 4790k is incapable of keeping the CPU cool even at stock.

DragonQ · 23 Jul 2015 at 12:34

It's not poor; it's sufficient for its intended purpose and, presumably, low cost.

badbiddy · 23 Jul 2015 at 12:36

DragonQ said:
It's not poor; it's sufficient for its intended purpose and, presumably, low cost.

This.

If they charged £20 more and supplied a mid-range air cooler that fits almost all cases, then you'd complain that they charge you for a fan you throw away to use your custom loop, AIO or high end air cooler.

new boy · 23 Jul 2015 at 14:03

badbiddy said:
This.

If they charged £20 more and supplied a mid-range air cooler that fits almost all cases, then you'd complain that they charge you for a fan you throw away to use your custom loop, AIO or high end air cooler.

As long as the OEM chips were cheap enough, it shouldn't be a big problem.