Why are people such *****

mejinks · 8 Jan 2010 at 21:38

Came back to my car tonight to find someone with a white car has badly damaged my rear bumper. No note, nothing, just driven away like they don't care :mad:

God I feel down.

Even if I found cctv of it, there isn't much I could do about it is there?

Batf1nk · 8 Jan 2010 at 21:43

If it shows the reg number you can report it to the police and your insurance company.

siumatfung · 8 Jan 2010 at 21:44

ofcourse there is
i suggest you tell the police if you find cctv footage then u can find the reg and

tell your insurance company hit and run is a criminal offence just hope they ahve insurance

if they dnt then your efforts are in vain mebbes

but yeh try and get some video

evidence then justice back as well!!!

[TW]Taggart · 9 Jan 2010 at 01:45

a mate had a simalar thing with his lotus 180s, gave the fuzz the details and she admited fault when they came knocking. well worth the effort following it up

WhiteCobra · 9 Jan 2010 at 02:50

Report the accident to the police. If you can get the registration of the car and they haven't phone it in they will also be charged with failure to report a road accident.

mejinks · 9 Jan 2010 at 17:00

Im going to write a letter to the pub opposite where I was parked, heres to hoping they caught it. Is it worth my time approaching the council?

Finglonga · 9 Jan 2010 at 17:10

mejinks said:
Im going to write a letter to the pub opposite where I was parked, heres to hoping they caught it. Is it worth my time approaching the council?

Go to the pub and ask if they have CCTV as by the time the letter gets there thee tape/disc will have been written over and will be no use to you.

Shimmyhill · 9 Jan 2010 at 17:13

You need to report the accident into a Police station as a fail to stop accident - Police will open an accident book - if you can get the CCTV with reg = win !

LACKERKNACKER · 9 Jan 2010 at 21:53

I would hope that if the pub does have CCTV that they are aware that they have no right to give you any information from it. As harsh as it seems the CCTV is there for the Pubs use, RIPA and DPA should prevent anyone from just turning up and asking to see the images from it.

Report it to the police, tell your insurance company if you believe there may be some footage on a CCTV system, they would have to make an application to the owner of the system for ad-hoc disclosure of the data.

Fr0dders · 9 Jan 2010 at 21:57

LACKERKNACKER said:
I would hope that if the pub does have CCTV that they are aware that they have no right to give you any information from it. As harsh as it seems the CCTV is there for the Pubs use, RIPA and DPA should prevent anyone from just turning up and asking to see the images from it.

Report it to the police, tell your insurance company if you believe there may be some footage on a CCTV system, they would have to make an application to the owner of the system for ad-hoc disclosure of the data.

just give them a friendly heads up of what your looking for. That way they can prevent it from being overwritten.If you do go through the proper system, as somebody said the recording could be long gone.

LACKERKNACKER · 9 Jan 2010 at 22:00

MrLOL said:
just give them a friendly heads up of what your looking for. That way they can prevent it from being overwritten.If you do go through the proper system, as somebody said the recording could be long gone.

Good advice, a smart solicitor would get the ***** off if they could show you'd got the images incorreclty

MarkDavis · 9 Jan 2010 at 22:02

LACKERKNACKER said:
RIPA and DPA should prevent anyone from just turning up and asking to see the images from it.

Firstly, it's not covered by RIPA / DPA because its not personal data from which an individual can be identified.

Secondly, there's an exemption for the detection or the prevention of a crime - in this case, causing an accident and failure to leave details.

Legislation isn't what you need to worry about - its whether the pub owners can be bothered to co-operate. As mentioned previously, report it to the police and let them follow it up. Just don't hold your breath that they'll do anything quickly about it.....

LACKERKNACKER said:
Good advice, a smart solicitor would get the ***** off if they could show you'd got the images incorreclty

Now why do I think that you didn't get very good marks in a data protection test.......

LACKERKNACKER · 9 Jan 2010 at 22:22

MarkDavis said:
Firstly, it's not covered by RIPA / DPA because its not personal data from which an individual can be identified.

Secondly, there's an exemption for the detection or the prevention of a crime - in this case, causing an accident and failure to leave details.

Legislation isn't what you need to worry about - its whether the pub owners can be bothered to co-operate.

Now why do I think that you didn't get very good marks in your data protection exam.......

your right, but as i would suspect you know it all can become a bit of a minefield. The issue for me would be if things were to go wrong, couple of scenarios spring to mind, you see the accident but not the registration number of the car, the tape shows the car normally parks nearby, landlord says “don’t worry mate I’ll keep on eye open and get it for you and make sure the camera gets it next time”

Or you’re watching playback and see your other half having it away with your best mate, you go around and tw** him, questions asked how did you know what was going on?

I know, both are extreme and unlikely, but I am a half glass empty type person!

Again, your right, owner of system would more than likely not want to help, but because it’s a car and a drive away, well everyone hates tw*** who pulls stunts like that.

Never taken any DPA exam however, what does bug me though is the fact that there is an assumption that everyone can have access to CCTV, its bad enough with all the statutory bodies who have some controls over them, let alone private operators.

MarkDavis · 9 Jan 2010 at 22:33

I don't quite follow what you're trying to say in your last post, but in terms of assumptions, I wasn't aware that there was such an assumption. Unless those people on CCTV footage are holding up 'personal identifiers' such as their name and address, and the CCTV operator stores all this personal information in a structured filing system, the people in the footage aren't entitled to anything.

Anyway, this is getting off topic.

Hawk Tuah · 9 Jan 2010 at 22:54

I had is the thing 3 weeks into having a brand new car. Someone drove into the side of it crushing both doors and never left a note or anything.

I reported it to the police and the reception of the place it was parked. Never heard anything though. Unfortunately it ended up on my insurance, after 8 years of no claims. Fortunately when I bought the car I decided to go fully comp and protect my no claims. Premium still more than doubled though come renewal time.