Why are some people so against others doing well

[Catanonia]

Constant replies in threads (normally political ones) moaning that people are doing better than others and they are greedy and don't give others who can't be bothered live better.

What is it about society that makes this happen ?
Why can't you work hard, invest well and reap the rewards without others bitching about it ?
Is it just jealously ?

The more this continues the bigger the spread will become.


Of course I am not expecting any serious answers to these questions in GD

 

[Catanonia]

Look at it the other way.

You are essentially framing the question in such a way which already assumes your base position is correct (or at least a universal truth, the reality is it's subjective based on your own value system).

It is obvious where my position is on this, I believe that if you work hard you should be allowed to reap the benefits without prejudice. However when prejudice is prevalent, the gap between the successful and those not so become wider with resentment from both sides of the argument.

Whether I am right or wrong is not the question.

 

[Catanonia]

Everybody should be free of prejudice.

That is impossible as nobody is completely free of prejudice. Anyway this is off on a tangent.

 

[Catanonia]

Why is it also right for the rich to give more "proportionately" when a proportional amount will still be significantly more than the non-wealthy?

A valid point, why is this deemed to be right that more wealthy "should" give more to the less so. Is this a modern thing that media has taught us or is it a humanity thing that we all "feel" we must do to some degree or another ?

What is it that some of the voices we hear actually want. To sit at home and let 30% of the population go out and work hard and share out all of their earnings to everyone no questions asked so everyone gets the same ?

 

[Catanonia]

The system is designed so there are always poor people within a society regardless of how hard they work, which I guess some find unfair.

mmm, true, without less well off people, who would do the jobs the wealthier wouldn't want to do. Kinda Lord and Servant scenario where most countries have evolved from. The haves and have nots. The problem is the distinction of the wealthier from the silver spooners and the grafters.

From here you will always get resentment and jealousy amongst some of the population.

 

[Catanonia]

Basically there is no such thing a fairness, people just need to get on with their lives and do the best they can do.

I agree with this, life sometimes is not fair and there is too much of a blame culture nowadays and unwillingness to accept responsibility.

 

[Catanonia]

Exactly, I think most people don't have an issue with people doing well provided it isn't at the expense / exploitation of others.
It's all about being fair and sadly society is far from it at the moment, the odds are heavily stacked for the wealthy and connected!!

And unfortunately in the modern world I never see this changing. The only change I can see is those who are not so well off having the compulsion to better themselves and to be rewarded for it. But I also don't see that happening in the near future.

Take for example tax avoidance, anyone can do it, if they read up on it and use the same methods. If enough of the mass population did this, then things would "have" to change and the problem may get solved. But those who are not avoiding tax legally whine about those that do because they don't have the compulsion to learn it for themselves and expect to have it handed to them.

My personal thinking is that if you trust the state to look after you and your affairs rather than take matters into your own hands, then expect to be disappointed.

 

[Catanonia]

How do poor people do this if the current Government is closing all the libraries?

The internet
Buy "some" books instead of all on cigs / beer

The problem is that there is always another excuse for those that don't want to and people willing to gather the pitchforks for them which adds to the spiral.

 

[Catanonia]

You have undermined your argument here by suggesting that the poor spend all their money on cigarettes or alcohol.

That is an unfair generalisation.

Probably is and probably true for a large number.

There is a wealth of help out their for the poorer amongst us to get help on such topics as education to better themselves, but there is nearly always another excuse rather than action. I speak from experience.

Of course there are those that are incapable, but that is a completely different topic.

 

[Catanonia]

Well, genuinely shocked at the adult discussion in this GD thread. Well worth the read for view points.